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To: rockrr
John Preston was in concurrence

So was Abraham Lincoln.

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it...

That and his acceptance of the proposed 13th amendment confirming slavery forever, is all you need to know about "honest" Abe.

506 posted on 12/05/2016 6:41:30 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
So was Abraham Lincoln.

No he wasn't. He wasn't willing to go to war to fight for - or against slavery. As it turned out he ended up going to war over it anyway, but only because the southern slavocracy was bound and determined to do so.

510 posted on 12/05/2016 6:56:53 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr; HandyDandy; x
DiogenesLamp: "That and his acceptance of the proposed 13th amendment confirming slavery forever, is all you need to know about 'honest' Abe."

It's only a mystery to DiogenesLamp because you know nothing, nothing of actual history.
You don't know, even though you've been told over and over, that slavery was a precondition for Union in 1787 and was accepted by all in 1860, in the South.
So Honest Abe was telling God's honest Truth: saving the Union was more important than abolishing slavery.
But if it happened he could do both, then that was a worthy goal, based on Republican abolitionist ideals.

537 posted on 12/06/2016 2:10:27 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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