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To: BroJoeK
With Canadians, there was no such list, period.

They didn't write one because they didn't consider their treatment bad, unlike the people (USA) who wanted a break from England.

This is exactly my point. That the Canadians did not consider their treatment bad, demonstrates that the founder's were leaving "at pleasure" all the while asserting it was because of intolerable conditions. If it were really intolerable, then the Canadians would have joined us in leaving, rather than fighting against our effort to leave.

We are back to the "eye of the beholder." The Canadians were in the same predicament, but did not see it as did the Americans.

"Mutual Consent" is the other reason considered legitimate by our Founders, and practiced by them in 1788.

You think George III "consented" to letting us leave? This is why I normally don't bother arguing with you. You and reality seem to be nothing more than passing acquaintances.

You make up or imply one cockamamie claim after another.

448 posted on 12/05/2016 9:13:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp: "This is exactly my point.
That the Canadians did not consider their treatment bad, demonstrates that the founder's were leaving "at pleasure" all the while asserting it was because of intolerable conditions.
If it were really intolerable, then the Canadians would have joined us in leaving, rather than fighting against our effort to leave."

You've never actually read the Declaration of Independence, have you?
You have no real clue what it says, do you?
And you know nothing of that history, right?
Because if you did, you'd be ashamed to post such ludicrous nonsense.

Our Founders' Declaration itemizes a "long train of abuses and usurpations", none of which Canadians endured.
Those made disunion for Americans necessary and their absence made it for Canadians "at pleasure", which is, doubtless, why Canadians declined.

DiogenesLamp: "We are back to the 'eye of the beholder.'
The Canadians were in the same predicament, but did not see it as did the Americans. "

More rubbish.
Canadians were certainly not in the same "predicament", and so did not respond the same.

DiogenesLamp: "You think George III 'consented' to letting us leave?
This is why I normally don't bother arguing with you.
You and reality seem to be nothing more than passing acquaintances.
You make up or imply one cockamamie claim after another. "

As always, you misunderstand because you don't know history.
The fact is that Canada today is effectively independent of Britain, an independence accomplished gradually over many years and by Mutual Consent.

457 posted on 12/05/2016 11:01:35 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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