[DiogenesLamp]

Congratulations, you've just seen a glimpse of reality. How does it feel?

People have a right to independence. It is the principle upon which this nation is was founded. Perhaps you will get a glimpse of reality some day.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "People have a right to independence.
It is the principle upon which this nation is was founded."

But Independence in 1776 was not the first resort of our Founders, it was their last resort, after all other efforts had failed and, indeed, after the British government had already declared and started war on Americans.
The key word in their Declaration is "necessary", which appears there four times, beginning with:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands "

The remainder of the Declaration explains why it was necessary.
No Founder ever supported disunion "at pleasure".

[rockrr]

You’ve adequately proven that it isn’t independence you want - it is chaos and anarchy. You wouldn’t know reality if it bit you on the....