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Keeping Ryan in place is not a bad thing he will grab the chance to be a historically great Speaker
vanity | Nov. 10, 2016 | Kevin Collins

Posted on 11/10/2016 8:13:34 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Donald John Trump is our 45th president elect because of the large number of first time or first time in a long time, voters who came out to support him and many of these supporters hate politics as usual.

Conservatives – myself included – hate Paul Ryan and his treachery revolts us; but we will just have to realize that throwing Ryan out would be a terrible first signal to Trump’s base, a base that is sick of the same old same old in Washington.

Ryan is safe for now because he will be put in a box by Donald Trump. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan who heads the Freedom Caucus in the House, - essentially the TEA Party’s Caucus,- will be looking over Ryan's shoulder.

Jordan and/or some other true conservative House member(s) will be reporting to President Trump regularly.

When Trump asks Ryan for things he will start with “low hanging fruit;” the kind no one can raise any objections to.

Keeping a compliant Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House is not necessarily a bad thing.

Trump will make these immediate moves, (but not in this order): Having US Marshall Service raid and arrest the criminal illegal alien gangsters in M-13 and deported or locked up them up; and no one will complain.

Trump will turn to killing Obamacare; Ryan can't possibly move to block efforts to kill Obamacare. Ryan will hand Trump a “de-fund Obamacare” bill and trump will sign it.

Trump will convene a meeting of Insurance Company representatives and ask them to prepare a plan for the deconstruction of the awful monster and few outside of the now irrelevant media and Democrats will complain. It will roll off Trump’s back as he will not be swayed by their propaganda.

Next Trump will move to fire IRS and VA system people who have acted illegally; and people will cheer.

Trump will kill as many job/business killing EPA rules as he can with just his pen. Ryan will help him and both will be praised by Trump’s new rank and file Republicans.

Trump will reverse Obama's clearly illegal Executive Orders to the sound of cheering everywhere but in the media he has proved he can do without.

Trump will ask Ryan to get him the funds to enact the 2006 law Congress already passed to build a wall. George W. Bush will be exposed as a fraud for never having any intention of demanding the money for this bill.

The wall will be built and the money will be recovered by Trump for us from Mexico. The media will mock him making believe they don’t understand what he is doing, but they will not stop the wall. Trump will squeeze the money out of Mexico in trade deals. Open Borders Cheap labor Paul Ryan will have no choice but to smile and comply.

Ryan will not act the stop Trump because he understands that by joining with Trump he will go down in history as one of the most effective, if not THE most effective Speaker in history.

Once on a roll like this Ryan won't be able to stop anything President Donald Trump wants to do.

From the Senate, after a long fight that will include a filibuster, President Trump will point out the dire need for the ninth justice the Democrats thought they would have been able to scare Mitch McConnell into giving them, and he will get a solid young conservative installed on the Supreme Court.

He will have a great first one hundred days.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: loser; ryan; speakerryan
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To: amnestynone

Dump Ryan. But can I slap him first? Hard? Ceuta a glove full of nails?


21 posted on 11/10/2016 8:26:56 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Liking the pike thing. Next to W on Game of Thrones.


22 posted on 11/10/2016 8:28:01 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: CatOwner

great Speaker.

never he betrayed the American People..

So many did.

Bush Family was a heartbreak for me but guess I grew up.

Moving forward America.......


23 posted on 11/10/2016 8:33:44 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: jmaroneps37

I look at it the way I look at my college football team’s coach. Don’t fire him because he’s not succeeding. Fire him when we can get a better coach. And don’t tell me how good we’d be with Saban , Meyer, or 10 other top coaches - they aren’t coming.

If the better coach is possible I’m all for it. If not, I’d rather have Ryan owe Trump and the Freedom Caucus for support than get a different Ryan. It may be more advantageous to negotiate for support that fight for a different speaker. Maybe not, but don’t change for the sake of change.


24 posted on 11/10/2016 8:33:52 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: Lent

PRyno’s head and heart are not in the right place. He has been shown to be a poor leader and needs to be replaced.


25 posted on 11/10/2016 8:35:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Mamzelle
RINO Backstabber RAT Ryan must go.


26 posted on 11/10/2016 8:36:18 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: jmaroneps37

ABSOLUTELY NOT! HE JUST NEEDS TO BECOME A DEMOCRAT!


27 posted on 11/10/2016 8:37:32 AM PST by upbeat5
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To: DoodleDawg
The Speakers post runs the length of the Congress. Retain Ryan in January 2017 and it will be January 2019 before you could remove him. Do you really want to chance that?

Great points, and NO! If we have to replace him in 2019, chances are it's with a Dem after a mid-term bloodbath.

28 posted on 11/10/2016 8:37:53 AM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: jmaroneps37
Keeping a compliant Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House is not necessarily a bad thing.

BS. He's a back-stabbing, opportunistic, bastard who displayed no loyalty to Trump. To most of us, loyalty is an importantant personality trait.

Furthermore, If I were Trump, I'd put Ryan in charge of washing my personal and Presidential limos and Secret Service vehicles.

30 posted on 11/10/2016 8:41:19 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Ray76

31 posted on 11/10/2016 8:42:39 AM PST by IWontSubmit
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To: jmaroneps37
Ryan has his own agenda via the GOPe.


32 posted on 11/10/2016 8:46:20 AM PST by maggief
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To: CatOwner

Trump and Sessions should basically revive the Smith-Simpson immigration bill from the mid-90s. It was a mostly good bill, a version of conservative comprehensive immigration reform that among other things would have significantly reduced legal immigration.

As a staffer, Ryan was part of the traitorous, liberal-on-immigration wing of the GOP that helped scuttle the bill. In a way, it’s funny that in helping to derail the bill, Ryan unwittingly helped guarantee his and Romney’s defeat over a decade later, as many more Democrats had been imported that otherwise wouldn’t have been had Smith-Simpson passed.

It’d be great if Trump could somehow force Ryan to support a similar bill now.


33 posted on 11/10/2016 8:46:35 AM PST by Aetius
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To: CatOwner

He will work for the next 4 years to head the next ticket as opposition to trump in 2020.


34 posted on 11/10/2016 8:51:10 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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All of the Hell no’s! on this thread are good but HOW is it going to happen?

The RINOs are going to hold the Speaker election next week!

Can we possibly defeat that, or Ryan’s victory?

If not, then he will be speaker.

What likely course of action—not whether you want him out—does anyone envision his ouster taking?


35 posted on 11/10/2016 8:51:37 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: jmaroneps37

B.S.


36 posted on 11/10/2016 8:55:28 AM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: jmaroneps37

After the wall Trumps first priority should be replacing all the butt kissers and left wingers in the Military

Rescind Women in Combat Roles
Get them off Navy ships

No lowering of standards


37 posted on 11/10/2016 9:05:21 AM PST by uncbob
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To: jmaroneps37
throwing Ryan out would be a terrible first signal to Trump’s base, a base that is sick of the same old same old in Washington.

Ryan is the same old same old in Washington.

The only argument I can see for keeping him is that he will stay just as cucked letting Trump do whatever he wants, as he was letting Obama do whatever he wants.

38 posted on 11/10/2016 9:19:32 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: jmaroneps37

If the house members don’t get rid of ryan, I’ll help get rid of them in the next elections.


39 posted on 11/10/2016 9:23:11 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: Ray76

he can’t be trusted. eff him.


40 posted on 11/10/2016 9:26:51 AM PST by davidb56
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