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Hillary Clinton’s pollster Benenson Strategy Group says she is tanking; Trump supporters unstoppable
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | 22 October 2016 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 10/22/2016 3:54:16 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

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To: Candor7

Hacked messages of black lives matter leader reveals Obama admins plan for summer of chaos and martial law. LINK


101 posted on 10/22/2016 7:51:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Candor7

Summer had been and gone, it looks like BLM has been relegated to arranging street protests in Australia and the UK where their message just doesn't resonate. The cat's out of the bag:


102 posted on 10/22/2016 8:07:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: rodguy911; Fractal Trader; Candor7

Is this for real?

http://media.wix.com/ugd/0cf371_514bfe6a2dec4871ab7da7d50b9be410.pdf

EXCERPT:

RECOMMENDED SALVAGE FIRESIGN

For almost two decades the Department of Defense and NASA have
coordinated on a black book project under the codename FIRESIGN.
FIRESIGN’s aim is to create a religious “awe effect” in enemy
populations to create an instantaneous psychological soft-kill (abject
submission). The operation uses high powered lasers to project realseeming
images on the sodium layer 100km above the surface. These
images can cover hundreds or even thousands of square miles and can
appear completely real, three dimensional, and can move.
These visual cues are augmented with pulsed ELF electromagnetic
emissions (see: PROJECT SANGUINE) that attack the specific areas
of the prefrontal cortex that are stimulated during religious
experience. In limited tests, subjects have been able to be
overwhelmed on both axis of vastness (an overwhelming of the
subject’s frame of reference) and a powerful need-foraccommodation.
The mix of these two will produce inaction, lack of
focus on self or individual interaction, and gross transformations in mental equilibrium (a Road-to-Damascus Experience).

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What do they mean by DO NOT COPY?


103 posted on 10/22/2016 8:30:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Jeff Vader

Yep... DEFINITELY FAKE. Let’s not be taken in by this type of FABRICATION!!


104 posted on 10/22/2016 8:52:10 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Jeff Vader

Company logo is different... but they where using this exact logo in documents as recently as 2013

http://www.climateaccess.org/taxonomy/term/1270/0

Scroll down to where it says...
“Recent Polling on Youth Voters”

But that is the only thing that makes this slightly look legitimate..... but then you go to page 6 and it looks like it was written by Alex Jones.


105 posted on 10/22/2016 9:07:47 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: Fractal Trader

Vote Trump Bump and bkmk


106 posted on 10/23/2016 1:56:29 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Fred Nerks
I was browsing through the FR thread and I noticed what looked like the original source doc which I always look for. My link appears to be it.

It looks pretty real to me unless its more disinformation which would not be out of the realm. I haven't verified it or anything but if it is and if it's the same company that zero used than the Clinton campaign is in big trouble.

Common sense would tell one that if she really is as big a front runner as all the driveby polls suggest why are her appearances so weak,so poorly attended, with only a fraction of the enthusiasm and people showing up that Trump gets? Makes no sense to me. I think its real.

107 posted on 10/23/2016 3:34:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Nebraska6804

Supposedly he was with a prostitute “when he died”? How would anyone know? He was FOUND already dead. Would a prostitute hang around with a dead guy for hours so that when he was found she’d be there with him?

Seems the people writing for the website should think about the logic of the stories they’re putting out there.


108 posted on 10/23/2016 3:41:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Fred Nerks

I think you copied some of the stuff near the end of the link. That stuff is waaaay out there I wasn’t really referring to any of that previous to that though there seemed to be a lot of pretty solid stuff that indicated the campaign was in big trouble. The alien thing was waaaay out there,IMHO.


109 posted on 10/23/2016 3:44:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: 103198

Hey thanks for checking, if its bogus so be it,appeared to be a source doc, if its not its not.


110 posted on 10/23/2016 3:46:56 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
I saw a photo of the purported prostitute,can't locate it now but from what I saw she was just there not necessarily for/with Scalia but was on the premises.

the part I read was that she was the hit man and then later on she was taken out as well.Who the hell knows. Some of the pages I saw are gone now.Is this more BS,we may never know.

111 posted on 10/23/2016 3:54:26 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

OMG. The plot thickens.


112 posted on 10/23/2016 3:55:45 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: rodguy911

Maybe this will be addressed in future WikiLeaks email dumps.

I’m eager to see O’Keefe’s next video release. I read somewhere that he had an operative embedded in the White Hut for about a year. (Maybe still does?) Don’t know if it’s true, but if it is ... yikes!


113 posted on 10/23/2016 3:58:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Gideon7

I agree, it sounded good up until the vote stopping catastrophes bit. Whoever wrote this should have stopped while they were ahead but got carried away with themselves.


114 posted on 10/23/2016 4:00:06 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Fred Nerks

Here is a clip from the beginning of the original link,appears benign enough,but what do i Know?
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To begin, an AFP report on Oct. 19, 2016 names Joel Benenson as a pollster for Hillary Clinton and quotes him:

“we don’t appear to be generating the excitement or a sense of a fresh, new candidacy we had hoped for.”

joel-benenson

Wikipedia identifies Benenson Strategy Group (BSG) as “a strategic consulting firm,” i.e., a company that uses polling data to provide advice on political strategy to politicians, political parties, and business corporations. The CEO (and presumably the founder) of BSG is Joel Benenson, 64 — a “pollster and consultant known for his role as a strategist for Barack Obama’s 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns. He is currently the chief strategist for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.” Born “in New York City to a Jewish family,” Benenson is:

“the CEO of Benenson Strategy Group, a strategic consulting firm, and serves as a communications and polling advisor to the [Obama] White House. He has been a strategist for U.S. senators, governors and mayors, as well as Fortune 500 companies. He was a pollster for the DCCC in 2006, when the Democrats won back the majority in the House of Representatives. […] Benenson is also the Co-Founder of iModerate Research Technologies. In January 2015, Hillary Clinton hired Benenson and Robby Mook as strategists.”

The Benenson Strategy Group’s report, Salvage Program, is 7 pages long, and is marked “Do Not Distribute – Do Not Copy” at the bottom of each page. Fellowship of the Minds is posting information from Salvage Program because we believe this constitutes a ‘fair use’ of copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.


115 posted on 10/23/2016 4:02:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

here is another clip,beyond this clip the report goes into the unreccommended wild blue yonder as far as I am concerned.
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SG’s Salvage Program report begins by specifying that “no skews or narrative screens were employed”:

“Skews” refers to pollsters skewing polling samples to favor Democrats by overpolling or overrepresenting Democrats, i.e., having a larger percentage of Democrats in the polling sample than the actual percentage of Democrats in the U.S. population.
A “narrative” is a story; an account. To “screen” is to “conceal, protect, shelter”. Polling results are translated by the pollster and the media into a “narrative” because too many Americans are uninformed about the methodology and statistics of public opinion surveys/polls, and so rely on having the polling data explained to them. “Narrative screen” refers to a misleading textual account or narrative of the polling data.
Translated into plain English, “no skews or narrative screens were employed” means the BSG report Salvage Program is delivering the truth of what BSG has found in its polls, not the lies that we are told everyday from pollsters who skew their polling samples, and from the MSM’s misleading, contrived narrative accounts of the polling numbers.

Let’s begin with the “Executive Summary” of the polling data discovered by Benenson Strategy Group — Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist and pollster:

Executive Overview: Hillary Clinton Flash-Crash to 12% Favorable, Losing 19-77% Nationally
At this point Donald Trump has both momentum and enthusiasm. Distrust in the mainstream media is blunting the impact of the collective polling narrative. As Election Day approaches, Hillary Clinton’s favorable ratings have crashed to historic lows (12%) in non-partisans and Donald Trump is consolidating support (97% of LV Republican-identifying respondents are either enthusiastic or very enthusiastic about voting for Trump).
Among independents, Hillary voters who are exposed to any alternative media (73%) are aware of the WikiLeaks emails and find them either disturbing (54%) or deeply disturbing (18%). Among liberal-identifying whites, support is shifting from Hillary (-27 since October 1st) to Donald Trump (78%) or Jill Stein (21%).
For voters who solely consume mainstream media only 28% are aware of the WikiLeaks emails and of those, only 8% are aware of the content. For these voters Clinton leads Trump by +8.
Minority voters are less likely to consume alternative media (only 14%) and are less likely to be aware of the email leak (only 18% for males, 9% for females). Even with this group, enthusiasm is down 63 points compared to October 2008.
On other fronts, the counter-narrative [against Trump] is failing as well. Most heavy consumers of social media understand that the allegations against Donald Trump of sexual misconduct have largely been debunked (77%). We understand that communications strategies in that space have
been unable to reduce the impact of this messaging. Worse, among white males in telephone polling 93% of them either approve (72%) or strongly approve (21%) of Donald Trump’s hot-mic tape.
Only 39% of women approve of them however a majority (64%) say they ‘understand that confident men talk that way.’ In effect, these allegations have been diffused.
On a positive note, most respondents who were liberal-leaning (83%) or Independent (59%) were unaware of the messaging front concerning Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct. While the vast majority (88%) were aware of consensual extra-marital relationships, the mainstream media approach to the stories has left only 8% of liberal-leaning voters and only 19% of independents aware of the allegationsof rape.
On a disturbing note, some 70% of Republican-leaning voters are aware bussed-in voting, false-face operations, and dead-man’s-party registration drives. This may necessitate severe strategy changes for November.
Here are the findings of Benenson Strategy Group’s accurate (non-skewed, non-narrative screened) polls:

(1) Support for Hillary is “collapsing”:

Both “soft” and “hard” support.
The “collapse” is “steady and pronounced” after the first presidential debate.
Damage from reports of Hillary’s ill health “has metastasized” — “Hillary is widely considered sick, untrustworthy, and [even] most Hillary-leaning Democrats would vote to replace her”:
Only 21% believe Hillary to be healthy, with no ailment(s); 4% are not sure.
The majority (75%) believe she is sick (18% pneumonia, 16% brain cancer, 16% vascular dementia, 13% anti-social personality disorder, 10% Parkison’s disease, 2% Alzheimer’s disease).
Among those who know about the WikiLeaks emails, on whether Hillary “hates ‘everyday people’, 52% answered “yes”, 15% answered “no”, 33% answered “not sure”.
(2) Support for Trump is surging (“momentum”), enthusiastic, and “virtually unstoppable”:

The Democrats have failed in their schemes to damage Trump:
Most Americans believe he has the temperament to be President: 33% say “he fights the mainstream media’s lies”; 27% “his temperament is winning”; 21% “he is a strong, Alpha-male personality”; 12% “a president willing to get angry is what we need now”; 5% “his temperament will frighten America’s enemies”.
Trump voters are “virtually unstoppable”:
Asked if disastrous events such as “threat of war,” “natural disaster,” “active riots/civil unrest”, “lethal epidemiological agent (smallpox)” would stop them from voting, 74% of “hard Trump supporters” answered “None”.
In contrast, 0% of “hard Clinton supporters” answered “None”.
(3) The Alternative Media have come of age:

Americans who avail themselves of the Alternative Media know about Hillary’s unsecured email server, the WikiLeaks emails, Democrat voter fraud, and other information the MSM don’t tell or don’t emphasize. They are supporters of Trump, including even some Democrats.
Hillary supporters truly are low-information voters — they rely solely on the MSM and don’t pay attention to social media and the alternative media: “voters who solely consume mainstream media only 28% are aware of the WikiLeaks emails and of those, only 8% are aware of the content. For these voters Clinton leads Trump by +8.”
That explains Hillary’s support among racial minorities because they are “less likely to consume alternative media (only 14%) and are less likely to be aware of the email leak (only 18% for males,
9% for females).” But even with this group, their enthusiasm for Hillary is falling — “down 63 points compared to October 2008.”
(4) Americans are catching on to the fake polls:

The BSG report says “The public has lost faith in polling” because:

“Poll-driven narratives have been pushed too far, alienating most of the voting population. The use of polls as a psychological weapon has also been noticed (especially on social media). As the poll-gap narrative becomes ever more extreme, obvious visible evidence (rally-size, yard-signs, bumper-stickers, memes / social-media posts) becomes more and more obviously contradictory. Attempts at shaming outspoken poll-deniers such as Bill Mitchell on Twitter have failed in 2016 where they succeeded (Dean Chambers) in 2012. We are in uncharted territory.

Even hooks into non-philosophically compromised pro-Republican polling outfits such as FOX, Rasmussen, and Gravis have not produced

substantial results.”
In other words, the phony polls are not working because the American people are not stupid — we can see that the polling data contradict the HUGE turnouts for Trump rallies compared with Hillary’s anemic rallies.

The one thing about BSG’s Salvage Program report that had puzzled me when I first read it last night was the report’s last part on “Salvage Options” — BSG’s recommendation on how to “salvage” Hillary’s failing presidential campaign.

Not recommended are the following:

Red Dawn: a (simulated) foreign invasion.

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so bottom line is it real,looks real or is it disinformation and is hillary really far far ahead,I guess we have to decide for ourselves.


116 posted on 10/23/2016 4:07:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: WildHighlander57

From their (Benenson Strategy Group) web page

“BSG is a strategic research consultancy that marries language expertise with innovative research to frame choices so that your brand is the only answer.”

Kind of adds a little credibility to this incredible story. (I really dislike the misuse and over use of the word incredible)


117 posted on 10/23/2016 4:16:30 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: hsmomx3
Re "I hope this is true"

Don't get your hopes up to high

Zikpocalypse: Referring to the zika virus epidemic, the report says: “Improved strains of ZIKV have been delivered and we have disseminated them to operatives. Unfortunately this will suppress women voters more than men (even as ZIKV2 is lethal in adults). This would hurt Hillary Clinton and Trump voters are willing to risk lethal pathogens to vote.”

118 posted on 10/23/2016 6:10:49 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Fred Nerks

God in the sky is coming for you .

The real guy(s) in the sky won’t put up with that for long , LOL.


119 posted on 10/23/2016 6:33:29 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: mewzilla

BTTT.


120 posted on 10/23/2016 6:53:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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