Posted on 08/17/2016 9:56:19 AM PDT by MichCapCon
Keep your hands on the wheel, obey the cop, be polite...that’s the mantra, no?
Keep your wrists on the wheel, hands and fingers extended. Be polite. Don’t be an ass. Be interesting to read the whole ordnance. From reading here I could have a cigarette in my mouth unlit. Not smoking and not smokeless tobacco. Or chewing on a swisher sweet. Sorry. Took a legal carry class night and we were playing with wording vs intent all night. And colorado has a strong castle doctrine. Denver however still sucks.
Hmmmm...
If one is arrested by the MSU police for a “serious” infraction, where do they spend their jail time?
Does MSU have a jail? If not, are they empowered by the people of EL-MI to incarcerate individuals in the jails of EL-MI?
Who then brings incarceration charges and on what evidence does the city of EL-MI bring the charges.
This is a lawyer’s DREAM!
PRECISELY!
I’d throw in about 70% of the non-smokers too.
They should just simply arrest whoever for smoking wherever.
Say you see an MSU student smoking in public outside of MSU. Run and tell the MSU police that the student is a smoker and if not currently smoking on campus, he will at some point or has certainly thought about it.
Kick him out and make room for some Muslims, blacks, latinos or Syrians.
Everyone knows smokers are evil, and 7,000,000,000 people die from second hand smoke every year. You can get eye cancer from simply seeing cigarettes!
These control freak bastards need to stay out of people’s lives.
I understand the sentiment, but they're real cops. MSU is effectively a city with 48000 students and another 8000 faculty and staff. Add in problems from alumni and others flooding the campus during the Bacchanalian revelries nominally called "football games" and "basketball games".
The police there are hired from the police academies and are highly competent compared to any other municipal police force. They have to deal constantly with drugs, assaults, rapes, riots (fortunately less frequently), property damage, theft, and hormonally challenged 18-25 year olds. They also have an extraordinarily diverse population with a huge non-US contingent of students, many from cultures where their families are the top of the heap politically ("Do you know who I am" types). Rather than rent-a-cops, the campus security there deserve the same respect given municipal police anywhere.
They're real cops--MSU police are a regular and highly professional police force. My buddy who works there tells me they cooperate with the E.Lansing police dept for jailing offenses. The Michigan constitution recognizes MSU and UofM as basically equivalent to municipalities but also with some additional powers. This was one reason they claimed to be able to prohibit concealed carry on their campuses for all individuals for several years after Michigan adopted the new CCW law. They've walked that back, but MSU clearly has power to adopt ordinances governing the campus and the police have the power to enforce those ordinances.
My friend there tells me it's a $170 ticket.
Also if you did this, it's the same as running from any other cop who tries to stop you. They are a police force. And they have the power to pursue you into E. Lansing, and the E. Lansing P.D. would pile on as well if you continued fleeing. The jury would convict you.
Yup agree, my car my rules. I wont be stopping for the smoking police
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