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Bassam Tibi: Euro-Islam Doesn’t Have a Chance
Die Welt - The Gates of Vienna ^ | May 8-13, 2016 | Bassam Tibi

Posted on 08/13/2016 5:50:37 PM PDT by annalex

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1 posted on 08/13/2016 5:50:37 PM PDT by annalex
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To: A.A. Cunningham; andyk; AlexW; BatGuano; bayliving; Belteshazzar; bert; Bigg Red; bigheadfred; ...

If you want to be on this right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list, but are not, please let me know. If you are on it and want to be off, also let me know. This ping list is not used for Catholic-Protestant debates; all confessions are welcome.


2 posted on 08/13/2016 5:51:50 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

But it’s wonderful. The third world violent muslims don’t have to integrate. Europeans will integrate to their new invaders.


3 posted on 08/13/2016 5:55:18 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly white woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: annalex

Outstanding post and thanks!


4 posted on 08/13/2016 6:01:10 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: annalex

So these refugees feel entitled to the wealth of their host countries and when they don’t get it they rape the women to besmirch the honor of the men because they believe men essentially “own” women.

Even if they don’t believe these women are owned by a man, they will feel that they own them and therefore should be raped.


5 posted on 08/13/2016 6:07:46 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: annalex

Annalex, this is a great read.

Bumpus Maximus


6 posted on 08/13/2016 6:16:28 PM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: KC Burke

Eight century people with cell phones and porn and blonde Germany girls you have a problem. This is the third time in one hundred years that Germany has blown up Europe.


7 posted on 08/13/2016 6:29:47 PM PDT by magua
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To: Organic Panic

That remains to be seen. I’m still not sure who will be running the concentration camps I sadly see in Europe’s future.


8 posted on 08/13/2016 6:31:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: annalex

Bump. Very interesting essay, not that it will mean anything to our idiot Islam-friendly SJW Leftists.


9 posted on 08/13/2016 6:46:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: annalex
Here is a quote from his teacher:

'The revolution won't happen with guns, rather it will happen incrementally, year by year, generation by generation. We will gradually infiltrate their educational institutions and their political offices, transforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move to universal egalitarianism." - Max Horkheimer

10 posted on 08/13/2016 8:54:07 PM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: annalex

Bassam Tibi is correct of course, but Merkel is too stupid to listen let alone understand the realities that he speaks. Europe is doomed if they do not change leadership, and soon.


11 posted on 08/14/2016 4:51:41 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: deadrock

That seems to rebut the entire piece; however, Germany was Karl’s birthplace and his spawn already inhabit the halls of Europe. Europe’s socialism is in its final cycle which only adds another complication to an intractable problem.

The author of this piece seems to offer a reasonable analysis of the current “refugee” situation with a unique perspective. There exists today an attempt to rewrite history and create a Golden Age of Islam out of whole cloth—portraying Medieval Muslims as innovative custodians of culture when, in fact, nothing could be further from the truth. The few who appreciated science and culture stole the work of more advanced civilizations whom they had conquered and even then worked in defiance of the Islamic faith.

Yet there was a Golden Age for many Muslims, and that was a period in the late nineteenth century and lasted until the latter twentieth. The brief age of secular Muslim states flourished when Turkish, Lebanese, Iranian and Syrian leaders attempted to join modern society. While not popular democratic states and many flirted with socialism, these were nations struggling to enter the twentieth century with all her complications. They failed and are failing and our feeble attempts at resuscitation have only furthered that decline.

The true irony in the situation when Westerners call for Islamic reform. The Islamic Reformation has already occurred, and its greatest adherents are known as ISIS. The secularists and minorities have been slaughtered and displaced by Islamic fundamentalists, and yet it is those very fundamentalists who comprise the bulk of the “refugees!”

These people cannot and will not assimilate. They are incapable of reason and inculcated with hatred for their hosts.

Inviting such a force into your country is to ensure generations of violence. The only question that remains is why so many leader do so. Those who grant these leaders charitable intent are much more charitable than I.


12 posted on 08/14/2016 5:22:16 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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To: antidisestablishment
In the end, Marxism and Islamism have far more commonalities than the Marxists would dare admit.

Too bad Max, the 'sophisticated' elite, getting his wish and running socialism at full bore, thinking that he was on an 'island of freedom in an ocean of dictatorships,' isn't around to drown in his miscalculating lies.

13 posted on 08/14/2016 6:08:07 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: wastoute

You are welcoome. Thank you for reading.


14 posted on 08/14/2016 8:58:07 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Crucial

The point is that the rape of Cologne was an act of war, not a bump on the road to Arab assimilation, and not a young body’s need for sexual gratification.

For a primitive mind, there is no better statement of military victory than “We came into your land and raped your women”.


15 posted on 08/14/2016 9:03:13 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: KC Burke

Gates of Vienna is generally a very good resource.


16 posted on 08/14/2016 9:04:10 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: FreedomPoster
our idiot Islam-friendly SJW Leftists

What's "SJW"?

The left is not Islam-friendly, it is Christianity-hostile.

17 posted on 08/14/2016 9:06:52 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: deadrock; Robert DeLong; antidisestablishment

Your conversation raises a good question. What is the relationship between the modern European Left, Marxism, and Islam?

All three hate Christianity. That is what unites them; so when one of the three does something hurtful to the Christian West, the other two assist. Islam has energy that others lack; so the Left makes up a legal environment with unenforceable national borders, and the USSR gave them weapons and a secular philosophy, which the governments of the last half of 20 century could attach to Islam.

But they also hate each other. The Left dreams of peaceful Islam and hates the violent misogynistic reality of it. The Marxists hate any religion, especially one inspiring millions. The Left and the Marxism oppose each other on the usefulness and desirability of democracy. Merkel, for example, is no Marxist: she saw Marxism in operation in East Germany and did not like it.

I don’t think our enemy can be properly seen as a single entity.


18 posted on 08/14/2016 9:23:49 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Social Justice Warrior

And the Left is Islam friendly if they perceive it helps them against the Right.


19 posted on 08/14/2016 9:37:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping. Worthwhile, as are the comments at Gates of Vienna. Didn’t one of your essays make it there?


20 posted on 08/14/2016 9:39:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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