Why do People Want Guns so Much?

Gun Watch ^ | 14 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Those who demand a disarmed population claim that it is the easy availability of guns that causes people to do bad things with guns.

The core assumption is that guns have no useful function.  The people who wish to disarm the population constantly say that guns are only made and used for one thing - to kill people.  It is implied is that no person actually wants to kill people, and they would not, if there were no guns.

From that follows the idea that people do not really want guns.  If only some barriers were put in place to make it a little harder for them to get guns, people will give them up, and the number of killings would go down.

That is a naive and simplistic view of reality.

It is easy to see how people who have no experience with guns, and no experience with violence, could believe these naive notions.  They have never used a gun in defense of themselves or others; their narrow view of the world is constrained to believing that everyone else is just like them.  We hear the echo of this in a popular song:

 "People are the same all over the world"

Fortunately or not, the song flies in the face of reality and experience.  Everyone is not the same all over the world.  In fact, everyone is not the same across even most cities in the United States.  Many people have pivotal experiences in their lives that make the demand for guns strong, determined, and inflexible.

People who have experienced violence up close and personal have strong desires for firearms.

People who have had military or police training understand that personal power and safety grows out of the barrel of a gun.

People who live in rural areas have many cultural experiences that reinforce the utility of firearms. 

All of these people have something in common.  They are outside of the cultural set of President Obama and those who desire a disarmed population.

Their desires are not soft and squishy desires easily met by a DVD or a new pair of shoes.  Most people in the United States equate firearms with personal safety.  Making firearms a little harder to acquire with more regulations will not deter people who equate them with safety.  It will make them suspicious of the motives of people who wish to disarm them.

A recent study in Chicago reinforced that fact.  It is very difficult for people to obtain firearms in Chicago.  There are no gun stores.  Buying a gun in Chicago carries a risk of arrest and imprisonment. That does not stop people from illegally acquiring firearms. Phillip Cook has studied the availability of guns in Chicago.  He found that firearms were difficult to obtain. From the study JCrimLC 2015 Guns in Chicago.pdf:

In our 2007 article Underground Gun Markets, we found evidence that guns are surprisingly difficult to obtain in the underground gun market in Chicago.20 This evidence includes substantial price markups for guns on the street relative to the purchase price in legal transactions, substantial legal or physical risk and delays for criminals in their attempts to get a gun, and the existence of a system of retail brokers who charge a fee to facilitate exchanges between gun buyers and sellers.21 Yet despite the difficulty for most people in getting guns on the streets, roughly four in five homicides in Chicago are committed with guns.22

President Obama is exactly wrong when he says:

"We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than to get his hands on a computer"

Second Amendment supporters have been correct when they say that Chicago has high levels of homicide with guns in spite of stringent infringements on Second Amendment rights.
Phillip Cook doesn't draw the obvious conclusion that people who strongly desire guns will go to considerable lengths to obtain them.  He thinks strict gun controls on places outside of Chicago (where the crime rate is much lower) could reduce the number of guns that get to Chicago.  It seems unlikely.

Chicago is a text book case of inflexible demand.  Brazil is another.  In spite of extremely strict gun controls and no Second Amendment,  the murder rate, including with guns, is one of the highest in the world.  One of the favorite guns in the Brazilian underworld is the homemade submachine gun.  The demand for guns is so strong that when factory made guns are unavailable, a supply is generated by individuals and small shops. 

People who desire a disarmed population point to Europe.  They fail to note that homicide levels did not drop when strong gun controls were imposed.  They stayed the same.  Guns do not cause crime.  Guns do not cause death. Guns are used to commit crimes or to kill.  They are also used to prevent crimes and to save lives.  People who see their utility will not give them up.  Historicaly, it has not happened.

In the much touted case of Australia, with an incredibly law abiding population, only 20% of banned guns were turned in.  Now, 20 years later, the number of legal guns and gun owners is as high as it was before the ban was put in place. Now, there is a significant black market in illegal guns and homemade guns.

To understand this inflexibility of demand, anti-gunners would have to step outside their comfort zone.  A few do, every day.  The number of people who actively support the Second Amendment has been growing for decades.

That is why Second Amendment rights are slowly being restored, and why pushes for more infringements are defeated again and again.


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[unixfox]

Why are you so afraid of those who want guns?

Because tyrants want to control every aspect of freedom loving people? GFY!

[Carthego delenda est]

“The core assumption is that guns have no useful function.”

I come across many libtard’s who like to entertain the argument that “nobody uses an AR-15 to go hunting with.” Rarely will I engage them in any ‘debate’ since in doing such I might as well try arguing with a dog, but when I do, the first statement I make is “that’s a red herring”.

[Rapscallion]

People want guns because they no longer assume anyone else will protect them, and some suspect those paid to protect them have become the enemy.

This is a perfect reply. Also, Obama could solve the problem by supporting the US Constitution as he swore to do. Do you have faith the democrats support the US Constitution? I do not!

[Big Red Badger]

Inside the quote marks,Okay!

[null and void]

Last line of defense against a government out of control.

That being said, it’s highly unlikely a civilian will survive a firefight with a fully trained and fully armed military force.

[BenLurkin]

Good catch!

[moovova]

“Why do People Want Guns so Much?”

So I’ll have some place to stick all if these “clips”.

[Kudsman]

Why do people want guns so much?

Personally, because my bow has a limited effective range.

[null and void]

Perfect.

I can’t be trusted with a gun, therefore you shouldn’t have one.

Compare to the definition of a sweater: something you have to put on when your mother is cold.

[BenLurkin]

A-symmetrical, baby. A-symmetrical.

[Walkingfeather]

two points I would like to make... 1. If the terrorist get to the point where they are killing people in droves, what do you want to bet all those smug self righteous leftists neighbors will either drop over for protection or be the first to go to the terrorists to report you as a gun owner to curry favor?

2. Trump needs to deputize every american citizen that owns a gun and require them to carry them at all times. Truck driving plane flying , gun shooting terrorists would look like a swiss cheese before they did anything....

[Lionheartusa1]

Never before since 1776 have so many American citizens feared the government so much . This admin. is arming many agencies never before required to have weapons and stock piles of ammo . 0bama has trained 80k UN forces in civil disobedience at US military bases .

When the government fears the people ,, it’s called democracy .

When the people fear the government it’s called Tyranny .

[odawg]

I think the Swiss are required to own a gun for their national defense.

[Big Red Badger]

Good Read,
Thanks

[null and void]

PRECISELY!

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[butlerweave]

Why do People Want Guns so Much?

Only a person who’s never fired a gun would say that

[Ken H]

I must say I was very pleasantly surprised that private gun ownership in northern Europe may be up to 2/3 that of the Swiss - who are armed to the teeth.

If the survey's numbers are anywhere close to being correct, it means there are 10s of millions of guns available to the people there.

[Badboo]

You are really overthinking this. The J.W. Hardin Cliff notes version.... They are a..holes and need to die.

“I never killed anyone who didn't need killing.”

[Stentor]

112/100 for the US.

So 100 people in my neighborhood don't have any guns?