Posted on 06/08/2016 4:40:43 AM PDT by marktwain
On 19 May, 2016, a member of the ATF, or at least someone driving one of their vehicles at a time that it was supposed to be in service, may have engaged in abusive behavior on the Glenn Highway in Alaska. From ktuu.com:
Police say that at 5:30 p.m. Thursday, a driver on the Glenn Highway said he pulled over for an unmarked white Ford SUV. The SUV flashed red and blue interior dash lights.At the time that the incident was reported, the police checked the license plate of the vehicle, but could not find a match. Four days later, investigation revealed that the vehicle was an unmarked vehicle registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, (ATF). The vehicle was not in the Department of Motor Vehicles data base. It was an unmarked ATF vehicle whose official existence is shielded from ordinary police view. This was discovered by a computer search though thousands of police reports. It happened that the ATF vehicle was at the scene of another investigation, and an investigating officer had noted the vehicle plate number in their report.
When the motorist stopped, police wrote that the driver, sped past him, laughed, and flipped him the middle finger.
The man called 911, and told police that he watched as the SUV did the same thing three other times with other drivers.
Police contacted the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco and Explosives, a U.S. Justice Department agency, which confirmed that the SUV was theirs, Castro said.The person driving the ATF owned Ford SUV has not been identified. Initial reports describe the driver as a white male in their 30s with short hair. ATF has a policy not to "comment on personnel matters".
A traffic stop normally occurs when a law enforcement officer signals a motorist to move to the side of the roadway and stop. The stop constitutes a seizure under the Fourth Amendment because it interferes with the motorist’s freedom of movement. In order for the stop to be valid under the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution, the officer must point to specific and articulated facts to support a reasonable suspicion or probable cause of criminal conduct.
http://criminal.lawyers.com/traffic-violations/traffic-stops-and-roadblocks.html
Pulling you over just for shits and giggles is a violation of your right to go about your business when you’re not doing anything wrong. It’s harassment, but I suppose a grwoing number of people are just accustomed to showing their papers and cowering in front of anyone who has a badge.
“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”
Our Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.
He didn’t “pull him over.” He passed him and flipped the bird. Notice how that doesn’t fit the definition of a traffic stop nor does it mean, “pulling him over.”
Have either of you ever been stopped by a cop? Did the cop speed past you and laugh after you stopped, or did he get out and ask for your license, registration, and insurance? Then did he discuss a motor vehicle infraction and give you a warning or a summons?
That’s what happens when you get pulled over. The guy in the ATF vehicle was an ass, but he did not violate anyone’s constitutional rights, nor did his conduct even approach the level of search and seizure, as well as quartering, that incited the American Revolution.
There are real violations to complain about. That guy makes us sound hysterical.
Of course it is a minor violation. That is noted in the article.
A minor violation is still a violation.
Whoever the driver was, he did it multiple times.
The attitude screams of arrogance and indifference, even hostility, to the rights of others.
Accepting the minor violations leads to the acceptance of major violations, rather like the “broken window theory” for law enforcement.
Are you suggesting that the incident should not be investigated, and if found to be as described, the driver should not be disciplined?
Nothing I wrote suggests such a thing.
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