Posted on 05/11/2016 1:27:45 PM PDT by MichCapCon
The average state employee is not at work the equivalent of about one month out of the year, according to an annual report from the Michigan Civil Service Commission. The days off include 10.2 days of sick leave and 17.7 annual leave days, which includes vacation time.
ForTheRecord says: State employees were on the job about half a day more in the 2014-15 fiscal year than the previous year. In the 2013-2014 fiscal year, state employees took 10.7 days of sick leave in addition to 17.7 days of annual leave.
Probably the water...pfft!
10 sick days and 18 “leave” days is about 6 weeks of workdays. Then you think about government employees frequently get MANY paid holidays, etc., they are not really at the job so much.
This is pretty different than private sector jobs.
10 sick days is not too extreme. People can, and do, get sick. It is better for everyone if sick folks do stay home and recover. Even private industry recognizes this simple fact and usually gives a sick leave benefit.
ALSO,
Michigan has cold weather and lots of O’s alien invaders are being dumped into MI to try to keep MI in the D voting column. Some of these ‘nice IslamoNazis’ and other foreigners bring in diseases, as can be expected. American citizens’ immunoresistence to such pathogens may be low or non-existent, due to the previous lack of exposure to same inside USA. Therefore, such diseases can spread rapidly to many American citizens.. and can be more serious, too, than they usually are in their Islamic and other countries of origin.
A woman gets pregnant and gets 6 weeks maternity leave (sick leave), that’s 30 days right there. At federal agencies, men are now taking paternity leave.
State employees accrue 4.0 hours of sick leave for every 80 hrs worked (IOW, part-timers would take perhaps four weeks to accumulate the 4.0 hours); there’s no cap (this is all “last I knew” info, btw), upon retirement 50% of the remaining hours are paid out at severance.
Vacation time (”annual leave”) is capped at 240 hours (six weeks) initially, climbing in five-year steps to a max of 316 (including a separate counter of 16 hours personal leave, awarded at hire, and once a year). All remaining vacation time is paid at severance, but only the first 240 hours are used to figure final compensation and retirement benefits under the old “defined benefit” plan.
Annual leave accrual rates go up over years of service; the rate is 4.0 per 80 hrs worked during the first six months (the probationary period) then rises to 4.7 (if the employee makes probation, and yes, it actually happens that some don’t). At 5 years it rises to 5.3 hrs, at 10 years 5.9, at 15 years to 6.5, at 20 to, hmm, I forget, although I think it’s 7.1... as the accrual rate rises, remaining under the 240 cap can become a problem, although in reality, that’s not a bad problem to have, and most state employees rarely (or even never) face it.
By the time the accrual rate maxes out (something like 10.x hrs per pay period, IOW, more than a day every two weeks) the once bright-eyed and bushy-tailed state employee in their 20s has grown decrepit in the daily grind of state service, and could be well into their early 50s.
Hey, I could go on about LTD insurance coverage rates and how they decline based on the number of hours of sick leave, but I won’t, and that’s a break for you (as Adlai Stevenson once said when part of a campaign speech blew away).
However, in a good year, 40-60 hours will go unused, and carryover to the next year.
“10 sick days and 18 “leave” days is about 6 weeks of workdays. Then you think about government employees frequently get MANY paid holidays, etc., they are not really at the job so much.”
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Add to that the fact that it is very hazardous to your health to get between a government employee and the exit door at 500pm. Probably much earlier than that.
It is natural to use more sick leave when you get older, this is one “reason” why employers might wish to hire younger UnitsOfLabor (or automate) instead
it sounds like you’re doing pretty well there, keep it up!
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What if I self-identify as a pregnant woman.... can I get 6 weeks off?
When I finally retired from my job in a Detroit manufacturing plant, I had 5 weeks paid vacation (25 work days) and however many paid days I needed if I was sick...........
I don't view this article as being a problem.....
I worked for a software company that didn’t give a lot of sick time, only 40 hours for the first five years years then 80 hours after that.
There were some folks that made a point of not taking a sick day, ever, they came in with serious cases of flu, food poisoning, whatever. Some of them had 300 hours of sick leave built up. They were planning on getting paid for it when they quit.
Then the company announced everyone’s accumulated sick leave would be reduced to 40 hours at their next anniversary date and you could never carry over more than 40 hours from that point on. And that was that.
Employees were free to take their 300 hours (or whatever) within the next year, so there was no legal basis for saying anyone actually lost the hours, everyone got to use their hours they had built up.
The accountants had pointed out the large amount of sick time accumulated by certain employees were a liability on the spreadsheet, easily running into the six figures, so poof, one year they had them, the next year they were gone.
So take ‘em if you got ‘em folks, they might not be there tomorrow.
Mostly Mondays and Fridays, I’ll wager.
How many more state and federal holidays?
OK but these are government employees. Where does the money come from, used to pay them for all of this time off? It is not from profits of a manufacturing plant.
I have no problem with govt. employees having the same vacation and medical leave as I do and there was nothing in this article that said they received more...........Maybe I missed something?
The sick leave is no longer paid out as severance upon retirement anymore. Most find a reason to “burn it up” previous to retirement. Otherwise you lose it. The annual is still paid out at 50% upon retirement. I’m at 22 years and I accrue at 7.4 hous per pay period. I’m shooting for 25 years. As i’m in a law enforcement job I can get out at 25. Most with the pension have to wait for 30. Hopefully my back will let me go to 25. I’ve already had multiple surgeries so we’ll see. On the up side, if I medically retire I can collect immediately. I’m working on “plan B” now as supplemental income. (firearms instructor). I already do it for the state, so it’s just a matter of recertifying with an NRA trainer.
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Thanks!
In Mich you need 10 days just for the drinking water
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