Posted on 04/23/2016 8:39:45 PM PDT by pboyington
Sources inside Congressman Steve Russell’s (R., OK) office informed US Defense Watch this week that the Congressman had received no new information from the US Army concerning his request for the records of the three female Ranger School graduates, Captain Griest, First Lieutenant Haver and Major Jaster, the so-called Mommy Ranger.
Seven months later and the US Army and the Pentagon are still refusing to turn over the Ranger School records of the three female graduates.
For those who haven’t followed the story, here’s a summary of the events leading up to the present time.
Captain Kristen Griest and First Lieutenant Shaye Haver were the first two women to graduate from Ranger School in August of 2015. Their graduation was the subject of much speculation by some members of the media and Congressman Steve Russell who contacted the Secretary of the Army, John McHugh on September 15, 2015, and requested their records from Ranger School.
The Secretary of the Army stalled Russell for nine days and then asked for an extension to obtain documents readily available.
The Army waited another two weeks to tell Russell the documents had been shredded, even though Army schools usually keep records a year or two after graduation. Then, Russell requested the Green Cards, the transcript of someone’s performance at Ranger School that everyone who has attended the school since 1952 has in a file cabinet there.
The Army balked at the Green Card request stating “privacy concerns.” What’s private about a land navigation score? Nothing, unless one of the female graduates had a history of failing land navigation repeatedly and the Army passed her anyway.
In the Fall of 2014, at Fort Carson, Colorado, a group of female soldiers were given three months of training to specifically prepare them for Ranger School. The female soldiers were pulled away from their regular duties in the Army to eat, breathe and sleep Ranger School for ninety days. One of the female soldiers who attended the training was First Lieutenant Shaye Haver.
In addition, First Lieutenant Haver consistently failed land navigation during various assessments conducted at Fort Carson. Yet, Haver was sent to Fort Benning to attend Ranger School. Sources also informed US Defense Watch that First Lieutenant Haver failed land navigation at the Ranger Training Assessment Course, a 16 day evaluation soldiers must pass before being allowed to start the school itself.
Haver graduated from Ranger School in August of 2015 after having been recycled twice and having to restart the whole course on one occasion. Did Haver also fail land navigation repeatedly at Ranger School? Undoubtedly, this would appear in her records, which were apparently shredded by the Army. But, her Green Card, a Ranger School transcript of her progress wasn’t. Surely, Haver’s land navigation scores are noted on her Green Card.
Yet, the Army refuses to send Congressman Steve Russell the Green Cards for Haver, Griest and Major Lisa Jaster, the 37 year old woman who graduated from the school as well. As of now, the only thing Congressman Russell has received from the Army is some concocted mini white paper showing that men and women are performing the same at Fort Benning and that women are meeting the standards.
The Army also refuses to tell anyone what the school’s policy is for the storage and destruction of Ranger School records. The Army refuses to tell the media why they shredded Griest’s and Haver’s records. The Army refuses to tell the media what they are doing with the third female graduate, Major Lisa Jaster’s records.
Congressman Russell was interviewed by The Oklahoman several months ago concerning the Ranger School story.
Here are some excerpts from the interview:
The Oklahoman: “Have you gotten the records that you sought?”
Russell: “Not from the Army. I’ve gotten nothing from them. In the second letter I got (last week) the Army said they can’t provide the records just yet and they reasserted the fact that the bulk of what I requested had been shredded and they were disappointed that I would suggest that they were up to nefarious activities.”
“Then they provided me an information paper that would try to get at some of what I requested. And this information paper provided a sampling of records. And then they provided an analysis of this sampling.”
“But they didn’t provide me the records to verify that sampling or verify their conclusions or even examine it.”
“So it’s like: Look, if there’s nothing to hide, show me what you have. And if these allegations are not substantiated, then we can drop this and move on.
The Oklahoman: “Is this (women in combat) issue something the House Armed Services Committee needs to hold hearings about?”
Russell: “Well of course it is. I think the question that we all would ask is: If warriors can be trained to the highest capacity, then why wouldn’t we take efforts to do that? But, we have to do it with integrity, and we have to do it where we maintain the capacity.”
“So, I’m asking questions. And, so as a member of Congress and on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, we have a constitutional requirement to oversee government and its functions. These courses don’t belong to any general. They don’t belong to any service secretary. They don’t belong to anyone. They belong to We the People.”
There can only be one logical conclusion why the Army won’t release the records and the Green Cards; because they show information that would inform the Congressman and the world that the women were given special treatment and or allowed to continue when they indeed failed the course.
The Pentagon got what they wanted; three female “graduates” from Ranger School. Like everything else surrounding women in the combat arms and special ops, this is predicated on pure, unadulterated lies.
The White House wanted women in the combat arms and special operations. The Army green lighted the three women through the school by holding their hands from day one with pre-pre Ranger School training, nutritional and fitness consultants as reported by People Magazine and showers every few days for the “anointed three.” Former Rangers have indicated how well fed the three women looked upon graduation, compared to the Dachau-like appearance of Ranger school grads for 60 sixty years. The three female grads were plump and glowing while the average guy crawls out of Ranger School on his hands and knees, thankful to be alive.
The chances of a 37 year old woman who’s not a Russian androgynous swimmer passing Ranger School is about the same as a T-Rex walking into your backyard right now. Ranger School spits out 20 year old men with the speed of a hotel power flush. Sending a 30 something man to the school is considered to be haphazard decision at best. How a 37 year old woman made it is beyond anyone’s reasoning. It is indeed a brazen bridge too far among the social engineers.
The three women were presented to the world as graduates of one of the toughest military schools in the world. The graduation was used to influence Ash Carter’s decision to allow women into the combat arms and special operations.
Since the graduation of the three females about ten women have attended Ranger School and not one woman has graduated.
The Pentagon continues to push women into the combat arms and special operations when they know their reasons are based on false pretenses and fantasies.
If the Army has nothing to hide, then it should turn over the records to Congressman Russell and the House Armed Services Committee. The Army’s continued intransigence is a further admission of guilt as participants in a conspiracy to convince the American people that women can function and survive in the combat arms and special operations.
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I think it's already pretty well established that they were given extra help and extra chances.
And that right there is the problem. There is some kind of disconnect from reality. Young women these days -- who get scared if a man happens to be going to his car in the same parking garage as them -- truly believe that girls can "do anything a man can do, and do it better."
Yep, you’re right. It’s one thing to try to get the most out of everybody’s potential—that is great. Example: Women’s sports are leaps and bounds above where they used to be, but still, don’t tell me women can make it in the NFL. No way. No female baseball pitchers—they don’t have the right shoulder girdle for it, etc. etc. There are differences, nature has spoken. 100 meter dash—every think a woman will hold the world record?
Of course not. But we are led to swallow the fact that where speed and explosive strength count most—in hand to hand combat to defend our nation’s interests—that women should assume those sorts of combat roles, and in fact assume roles among the most elite of our war fighters.
This is beyond lunacy. This is resume building, both for the women involved and for the politicians who push this nonsense, and it will get us killed.
Is it an accident that every single leftist proposal seems to positively weaken the chances of our country surviving? Can’t be.
Yup. And I am sure they are under Obama orders not to release this info.
My son was a combat medic, two tours of Iraq with the 4th ID. He was a weight lifter and could pick up and carry a man in full combat gear. Can you do this?
I have absolutely no problem with a female fighter pilot, it does not take great strength to fly. I have a lot of problems with a female or male that does not have the upper body strength to carry out combat operations on the ground.
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When on patrol his unit would protect him and keep him safe. They knew if they were hurt he would be there for them and he was.
-—We’ve had 20 years of Hollywood grrrrr power propaganda films
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That’s just it isn’t it? Everyone is Lara Croft from Tomb Raider or the Hunger Games, or whatever.
When a woman and a man can compete weight by weight in the MMA, then we can talk about it.
Women would go ballistic to see a female in the octogon (and so would I), there would be protests all over, boycotting tv stations, boycotting states where it was sanctioned etc.
I have a grandson that wrestles now, he’s only in 6th grade, and they have girl wrestlers now too. He feels bad, he tells me “pa, I feel like an ass when I have to wrestle them”.
So, he just wrestles them enough to pin them, he doesn’t even try. And he says they cry afterwards, and then he feels bad. In a normal match he gives 110%, he works hard, and then for him to get paired up with a girl in this weight class is ridiculous, it insults him, and it must be devastating to the girls after a season of this.
In his district there are 2 girls in his weight division that he has to wrestle from 2 different schools, and the other kids harass HIM about it too. He’s in a tough spot, and that’s what this nonsense is doing to everyone, putting them in a tough spot.
When girls can start winning in MMA or at least at the state wrestling level (they have separate sexes for that) or Fargo (separate sexes there too), or even hockey or baseball we can revisit it.
Our military ain’t no sport and it shouldn’t be grounds for social experiments.
Yeah yeah, I get Israel has female combat soldiers, but they don’t invade, they are not a mobile infantry, they guard a border, where medi-vac is instantaneous and triage is 3 minutes away, or several other men are there to help if something goes wrong.
It’s crazy.
Even if you believe they found a unicorn that could manage this at 37, it still doesn’t erase the fundamental issues of women being significantly weaker than men on average. When you’re selecting for elites, this matters. It is a waste of everyone’s time and effort to be forcing through a population that you know from the outset has on average 2/3rds or less of the upper body strength. And this may be less important than the psychological/social issues surrounding having women in front line combat units.
Yep, probably exactly what happened.
My personal experience has been no matter if you were a graduate of Hudson High or any other ring knocker school, a zero is a damned zero. Ticket punchers have always been among the true leaders and Political Correctness has now assured their promotion.
We already did; we recently lost wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with our “new military”. When they raised the enlistment age to 39 in Guard units, the writing was on the wall: We didn’t have enough troops to fight these wars. I’d imagine it has only gotten worse in the ensuing years; while more people will turn to the military in this horrible economy, many are not the caliber you could send to these places.
As soon as the pile of body bags is high enough, there will be a reconsideration.
No surprise there; it happens in the private sector every day (with jobs and promotions for women and preferred ethnic minorities), and even earlier in colleges.
Ex-Marines in Congress say Navy chief destroying Corps by forcing integration of women
The Washington Times ^ | January 12, 2016 | Rowan Scarborough
Posted on January 12, 2016 9:36:05 PM EST by jazusamo
Former Marines in Congress, including a liberal Democrat, are on the offensive against Navy Secretary’s Ray Mabus’ sweeping edicts to the Corps on women in combat.
Rep. Duncan Hunter, a former Marine officer in Afghanistan and Iraq, accused Mr. Mabus on Tuesday of “destroying the martial fabric of the Marine Corps.”
Smokescreen on the Potomac: Pentagon and Congress deliberately ignoring $36 million USMC study
US Defense Watch ^ | April 19, 2016 | Ray Starmann
Posted on April 20, 2016 2:35:27 AM EDT by pboyington
The United States of America is in mortal jeopardy and most Americans, tucked away in their beds tonight don’t even understand why or who is responsible for their peril.
Those responsible are not from North Korea, China, Iran, Russia or ISIS. They are Department of Defense bureaucrats, members of Congress and senior leaders in the US military.
The US military is committing suicide. We are in the first stages of beginning a process that is going to decimate the speed, lethality and combat power of the Marines and the US Army combat arms and special operations. The US military is doing this because of policies directed by the White House and authorized by willing lackeys in the Pentagon and in Congress.
A Congress short on military veterans and long on wind and incompetence said nothing as the April 1, 2016, deadline passed for them to review Secretary of Defense Ash Carter’s authorization which allows women to serve in direct ground combat units.
Yet, Congress had a plethora of information presented to them which clearly indicated that women cannot function and survive in US Army and US Marine Corps combat arms and special operations units; aka, infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery, the Marine Raiders, NAVY SEALs, Delta Force, the Rangers and the Green Berets............
.......Included in the vast array of information available to the Pentagon and the Congress was the $36 million dollar, 9 month long Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force (GCEITF) Study the Marines conducted in 2014 that pitted all male units against coed units in a myriad of combat tasks that simulated what one faces in the combat arms and special ops.
The study was monitored by neutral researchers from the University of Pittsburgh.
Except for Senator John MCCAIN and Congressman DUNCAN HUNTER, who felt the Pentagon was deliberately dodging the results of the study, not one member of Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Navy, the Secretary of the Army, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former US Army Chief of Staff and the current US Army Chief of Staff, completely and unequivocally wanted nothing to do with the study and ensured that it was ignored.
In fairness to General Joe Dunford, the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as Commandant of of the Marine Corps, he did request a waiver that would have stopped women from being included in the combat arms and special operations units of the Marines.
Dunford’s waiver wasn’t even considered by Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus. Since then, Dunford has hunkered down in his bunker, watching the implosion of the Marine Corps with field glasses................
President Trump or Cruz needs to fire every three and four star general at 1pm, Jan 20, 2017. Then by 1:15, the Ranger School leadership that has lied all through this should be gone too. Each and every one of these officers has put career over country for Obama in this and every other military issue. They are disgusting scum.
I have never said this before but the senior ranks of the Army is populated by liars.
“They can’t do it. I’ve had the honor of working with Rangers (not in a military capacity), and they were adamant that no female could have legitimately passed.
I think it’s already pretty well established that they were given extra help and extra chances. “
My son is a Ranger. He told me a few years ago that as part of the Army’s trials at seeing if a woman could pass Ranger school they had a female Olympic athlete give it a try. She washed out In days and said “no woman should ever be subjected to this”. Of course, she got no special treatment when that happened.
“I have absolutely no problem with a female fighter pilot, it does not take great strength to fly”
Actually, it takes a lot of upper-body strength to fly the jet while under high-G conditions. Try and move and twist your body when flying under 9-G’s. . .difficult at best.
Jeannie Flynn, the first female that flew fighters, was given extra chances when learning to fly the F-15E. De-briefs after a flight are brutal and honest and tough. She cried during debriefs and was passed. . .imagine a guy crying during de-briefs. . .just imagine how fast that guy would be thrown out of the program.
Additionally, when we received word she was coming to our wing we were told she WILL become MR on time, be upgraded to 2-ship and 4-ship flight lead on time, and instructor on time, too. . .regardless of skills.
Aggression is necessary in combat. Aggression, not meanness.
Women can be mean but natural aggression is vital and in women it is lacking.
Testosterone equals aggression. Male testosterone generates that aggressive attitude.
The oft-mocked chest-thumping testosterone aggression comes natural in men, not women, and natural aggression is necessary to be a warrior.
Women in warrior roles try to act aggressive, but that is what it is, an act.
Warrior behavior is borne of natural male aggression, not meanness. Natural male aggression is recognized as essential in a warrior. . .even in Hollywood: Every time Hollywood has some female in a “warrior” role they are depicted as manly, or we see the females rolling their eyes as they tell the guys to control their testosterone-driven behavior.
The whole thing is utterly corrupt. Turns the whole thing into one big lie, from top to bottom. Honor? Expendable. Readiness? Expendable.
Lives? Most definitely expendable.
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