Posted on 04/13/2016 12:59:59 PM PDT by grumpa
These are our friends and fellow grassroots activists, Tea Party members and long-time Republicans, county chairs and first-time caucus attendees, young and old, very conservative and not-as-conservative, all gathered together to move our country forward, select senate candidates for the June primary election, and to elect delegates to the GOP National Convention, who will help to select our next president.
These are the Patriotic Americans that the Donald Trump Campaign compared to Nazis, using Gestapo tactics.
These are the delegates that Donald Trump totally ignored until a week before the convention.
This is the crowd who would have loved to hear a Trump speech, even if a majority were supporting his opponent, Senator Ted Cruz.
But Donald Trump couldn't be bothered to show up.
Instead, after he lost all of the Colorado delegates to Senator Ted Cruz, the Donald directed his staff and supporters to whine, and to make false accusations about a delegate selection process he didn't bother to understand, or choose to participate in.
This week, Trump was back in New York, among the people who share his values, complaining that the whole Colorado delegate selection process was a "totally corrupt rigged system" designed by the GOP establishment to prevent him from attaining his Trump-Given Right to be nominated for president.
Well, I've got some news for you Mr. Trump, and for all of the media and pundits who bought into your bogus narrative. It's going to backfire, big time.
You see, Colorado politics and the process of selecting candidates and delegates is all about showing up, starting at your local precinct caucus (held on March 1). It's a truly grassroots process, and it's been done that way for over 100 years.
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is registered Republican, can show up and be part of a local precinct caucus. A precinct is the smallest political delineation for elections and holding party meetings. In an urban area it might encompass several blocks, basically your larger neighborhood. In rural Colorado it might include all or a large portion of a county. Typically, a precinct contains a few to several hundred GOP voters.
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, can be selected by their fellow caucus attendees to be a delegate to their county and congressional district assemblies, and yes, even to the state GOP convention. Anyone. It was estimated that about 40 percent of the over 4,000 delegates and alternates at this year's convention were new to the process. Some of them drove six or more hours to get there, and stayed in motels at their own expense.
And here is the little-known fact that all the pundits and press have failed to report:
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is a registered Republican, could have filled out a form and been listed as a delegate to the National GOP Convention. Anyone. You didn't even have to attend your caucus - the form was posted online at your state or county GOP website. On that form you had to designate either that you were supporting a particular candidate or were running as un-pledged. Most listed themselves as un-pledged.
That is precisely why there were over 600 national delegate candidates listed at the state convention, and about an equal number of candidates combined at the seven congressional district assemblies. Out of that thousand or so candidates, only 13 would be selected at the state convention, and 21 at the congressional assemblies (3 each), plus an equal number of alternate delegates, to go to the national convention in Cleveland. Add the Colorado GOP Chairman, and one man and one woman delegate to the RNC, and you have the total of 37 delegates frequently mentioned in the press.
Note that, only one, let me repeat that, ONLY ONE out of that 37 is part of the GOP establishment, the Colorado GOP Chairman, Steve House. All of the others were elected in a process that began with electing delegates to the state convention and the congressional district meetings at the local precinct caucuses. Delegates were also selected to attend county assemblies where candidates for local office, and the state legislature are selected through votes.
That is grassroots, baby. No other way to describe it.
Unless you are the Donald. Then you describe it as the party establishment disenfranchising potential Trump delegates. Give me a break.
If any potential Trump voters were "disenfranchised", it was because of the failure of the Trump Team to reach out and educate their supporters about the process of electing delegates. No one told them to show up. Or maybe there just aren't that many Trump supporters in Colorado. Out of 22 people at my own caucus, not one supported Trump.
However, somehow, all those Cruz supporters managed to figure things out. The grassroots activists know who the real conservative running for president is, and they came out to support him and all of the other patriotic candidates up and down the line in Colorado. That is the real story.
Oh, and here is a message for Mr. Trump. Maybe you hadn't heard, but Colorado is a critical swing state. This fall, just who do you think is going to be out there making phone calls for you, walking precincts for you, calling into radio shows, and donating money, if you get the GOP nomination? Maybe your admiring followers will be doing all that work for you - the same people who couldn't figure out the delegate process.
But, it sure ain't gonna be the tea party activists and the stalwart Republicans who put on the caucuses, who stepped up to be delegates, who drove hundreds of miles to attend the convention. Unless you forget, those are all the hardworking people who your campaign just likened to Nazis. Good luck with that.
What a dumbass loser you are Mr. Trump.
the real story is that the colorado caucus process is a sick, insider, anti-democratic joke. About half a dozen people show up for each precinct caucus, and “elect” people to attend county assemblies and Congressional district assemblies; the county assemblies “elect” people to the state convention. The CD and State assemblies then “elect” delegates, who are supposedly unbound.
A few thousand people out of a population of 5 million participate.
if all registered republicans actually showed up, there wouldn’t be enough meeting rooms to hold them in the entire state and the caucuses wouldn’t ‘work’. in fact, the GOPe is counting on just a very, very,very few showing up. that’s why the reserved caucus rooms are always so very, very, very tiny.
family members who have children to take care of, meals to prepare, and work to prepare for don’t have time to waste on a meaningless process where party insiders are going to steal the whole thing at the end anyway.
on the other hand, colorado is a mail-in ballot state for ALL elections, so a few hundred thousand would have voted in an actual primary, whereas the caucuses were held on a weeknight when people have to take care of their families and then go to work the next day.
btw, if this is such a wonderful process, shouldn’t all of our elections for everything require everyone to show up at 7pm to 8pm on a Tuesday night in order to vote on people who then go to a county assembly which elects people to go to a state convention who then elect everyone for all elected offices?
Well, I don’t know about you, but the direction the French Revolution took was based on the fundamental foundations of the people who undertook it. It is Trump supporters who make the comparison making me wonder why? Why do they reference that revolution, rather that the one that won us our freedom. Could it be that the nature for which Trump supporters want to take it is that different and more closely aligned with the French Revolution, which leads me back to who are you going to behead first?
You are getting stuck. I tried to help.
Trump is a deductive thinker - he begins with the goal and works back from there - no wasted motion - only what contributes to the result.— Bill Mitchell (REAL) (@mitchellvii) March 21, 2016
Guys like Cruz are inductive thinkers. They are so obsessed with the ideological front end, the actual result is an afterthought.— Bill Mitchell (REAL) (@mitchellvii) March 21, 2016
So today, Trump used the PRESUMPTIVE CLOSE and the TAKEAWAY CLOSE. Damn, he's good. :-)— Bill Mitchell (REAL) (@mitchellvii) March 21, 2016
Trump acted all day like he is ALREADY the President. That's a PRESUMPTIVE CLOSE technique and he performed it masterfully.— Bill Mitchell (REAL) (@mitchellvii) March 22, 2016
What we're seeing by Trump in DC today is a classic PRESUMPTIVE CLOSE. He is showing America what Trump BEING President will be like.— Bill Mitchell (REAL) (@mitchellvii) March 21, 2016
Doesn’t every smooth talking lawyer always have a smooth explanation for why it’s all your fault? “Oh so sad you should have had your lawyer read the fine print.” The no longer surging Slick Teddie is that kind of a Harvard lawyer.
But hey Rush loves him and Rush is sure he and the thugs in the Colorado GOPe are just a few guys trying to run a clean campaign like they ran in Iowa.
I still want to know who you plan to behead?
In case you were unaware, the French Revolution was bad. So bad our founding fathers went over to help them and abandoned them.
I may be focusing on the tree and missing the forest, but I think that this comparison is one that should be called out when made.
Trump learned that building a 10B company during his lifetime. He signs 22k paychecks on the FRONT. Watch the Trump family town hall - Cruz will NEVER EVER be close to Trump. The tweets by Bill show why.
Note how much Cruz reacts - that is because Trump is controlling the narrative. Trump is proactively playing Cruz like a cheap violin - and Cruz is helpless to stop it.
Big picture reality.
You still haven’t answered my question, Who are you going to behead first?
Why would you choose the French Revolution and not the American?
Was the French Revolution bad?
How was ours different?
“I still want to know who you plan to behead?”
Logical fallacies; strawman, ad hominem.
It’s NOT about me personally. I know why people like to try and make it personal so don’t bother going there.
Step back and THINK.
Like I said- you are getting stuck. I’m trying to help.
If you are a student consider this a learning experience. That is what it is. So don’t fire off the first tiny picture things that come to mind.
If you think Trump or anyone else is going to fix party politics, you are fooling yourself. Trump will also fail to heal the waters and clean the air we breathe. The fact that Trump openly admits and even brags he used a corrupt process to enrich himself is all I need to know about Trump.
Who are you going to behead?
What was the difference between the two revolutions?
Was the French Revolution bad?
Can something be both good and bad?
I know the answers to these questions, and I realize the points your making. However you can not answer my questions, or more like will not because you would have to either admit to being willing to turn towards the mob rule violence of the French Revolution to solve the problems.
Independents chose not to be in a political party and cannot be further disenfranchised as they CHOSE to disenfranchise themselves. What they might or might not do in a general election has nothing to do with the primary.
You are stuck, I’ll give you time to consider the bigger picture and think it over.
I know that this is hard so I will limit this to one question.
Can something be good and bad at the same time?
I already now the point you are making about politics, the only thing we disagree on is which candidate will produce the product we want, which is our country back, without turning us into the republican french, or the soviets
I don’t know how that question pertains to the conversation.
Do you seriously think Trump means turning the US into the Soviets?
He’s my view. The parasite vote is over 50%, the parasites are the people who are on the government dole in one way or another. That percentage is a fact. Anyone concerned about the survival of American needs to understand a pro America candidate has to overcome the parasite vote. That means they will have to capture all the crossover democrat and independent votes possible. Cruz can’t and will not do that. Trump can. That is the stark reality, primary vote numbers prove it.
This reality is why JR said what he said in these posts;
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3418598/posts?page=62#62
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Cruz has lost it fair and square and should step aside for the sake of the country.
If his continued efforts at thievery split and destroy the party, we’ll be saddled by Hillary or burned by Bernie.
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62 posted on 4/7/2016, 8:03:29 PM by Jim Robinson
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Cruz lost the primary vote and is now aiding and abetting the enemy (the GOPe)
in their treasonous attempt to deny the nomination to the winner.
Cruz is a sore loser turned traitor against the grassroots voters.
And the foolish neophyte thinks the GOPe is going to let him have a shot at the presidency if he helps them block Trump?
Laughable if it wasn’t so serious.
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51 posted on 4/11/2016, 4:58:07 PM by Jim Robinson
It goes to show that you cannot answer the question and see the logic, but alas I will explain it to you.
If you say that the French revolution was bad, then it should not be an example for where you want to take the country.
Since it appears to be such an example, then that means you think it is ok.
Now you may say that it was bad for its methods but a good example.
Which leads to the question can something be morally Good and Bad at the same time.
Was the French Revolution Good or Bad?
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