Cruz supporters: Did Cruz's comments change your mind on him?

vanity | March 12, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

[MayflowerMadam]

More were involved than those you listed.

Last night I mentioned that Michael Gergen and Neil Bush were gleeful on CNN. NEIL BUSH — newest member of the CRUZ CAMPAIGN. I wouldn’t put it past him to be involved.

Then someone reminded me that “Bush=Clinton=GOPe=Commies.

They use Marxist tactics, from A-Z. Middle America will now get to see it and maybe more will wake up.”

There are so many relationships:
Bush=Clinton=GOPe=Commies
Bush=Cruz
Bush=Rove
Rove=Bush=Clinton=Alinsky=Ayers
Alinsky=Clinton=Bush=Cruz

By the way, Alinsky dedicated “Rules For Radicals”, Clinton’s textbook, to Lucifer.

This is a group an alleged Christian, i.e., King Cruz, wants to be mixed up with? Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

Rove was one of the attendees of the Mar. 7 SECRET meeting in Georgia on how to stop the populist GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. Here’s list of some attendees:
Senate Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.)
Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.)
Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
Speaker of the House Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.)
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.)
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.)
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.)
Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.)
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas)
Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.)
Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.)

There’s no way at least Cruz, via his Bush connection, and possibly Rubio, didn’t have a hand in orchestrating the violence. Then they go on TV and say that the violent protestors had their right of free speech, but Trump and his audience did not have that same right. When you’re aligning with Bill Ayers, Bernie Sanders, and MSM, you’re one of them.

[Aria]

There is the little problem of him being born in a foreign country....

[pollywog]

Cruz blamed the protesters RIGHT OFF THE BAT...

He added that it only eggs the protesters on when you say things like Trump has been saying.

I AGREE... he did NOT say " I BLAME TRUMP".. nor did he imply that!!

Did Trump call Cruz a P---Y???? YOU would probably say NOT AT ALL and in fact most TRUMPSTERS laughed at it making fun...you danced around it.

Getting technical as in a Bill Clinton response " it all depends on what the meaning of is --is",

You say Trump didn't " call Ted a P....y",okay.. well neither did Cruz BLAME Trump for the disturbance. We are parceing words here..

[JediJones]

I’ve been watching this board declare “the end of Cruz” since the whole trumped-up “voter violation” mailer. The Trump supporters try blow up the most minor nitpicks into some kind of career-ending gaffe by Cruz.

The idea that Cruz is “losing supporters” based on these picky little things is just silly. Cruz supporters care about values and issues, not about silly campaign back-and-forth that will be forgotten in 24 hours. Cruz will continue to consolidate conservatives and head into the convention with more delegates than Trump and go on to win the nomination and the presidency.

Trump is unelectable with massively high negatives in polling and a campaign that plays directly into what the Dems killed Romney with, an out-of-touch billionaire who’s hurt the little guy and who they’ll try to blame for a war on women and other ethnic prejudices. I oppose Trump because I don’t believe he’s sincere about flip-flopping away from liberal beliefs. But I can also recognize he’s the Democrats’ dream candidate, someone they can demonize all day long and who the charges will stick to.

[BlueCat]

That's a good point. Sitting out would bother me too. I honestly won't know until the time comes.......no use speculating yet.

On another note, I do happen to know - second hand - some of Cruz's Texas team. Their goal has always been for Ted to be VP. I heard about this about four months ago.

And again, that sounded good until Ted pulled this.

[Fundamentally Fair]

Nope.

[Cold Heat]

NO.....,

The comments that p’zz me off all come from trump or his disciples.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Trump has encouraged his followers to commit violence”

Trump’s followers were TARGETS of violence. And he gets the blame for being a victim?

[Marie]

“Stopping the Democrat” is no longer motivation for me to vote for a RINO.

I’ve been playing that game for 25 years.

I’m not playing any more. I will vote for the candidate that I believe in and no others.

I will no longer be motivated by fear. The ‘principled conservatives’ haven’t done anything for me anyway.

[MortMan]

Any candidate is responsible for the culture of a campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discord.

I'm curious how the clear "Trump and his campaign encouraged this type of thing" equates to you not seeing that Cruz blamed Trump for fostering the climate that lead to this.

And how do you discount the parallel to the "she was wearing a mini skirt, so when she was raped, it was because she encouraged the sexual attention" aspect?

I have favored Cruz over Trump for a long time. But Cruz's campaign, including this last statement from him, makes me wonder if he is even close to who I thought he was. Both candidates were acceptable to me. Cruz is less so, now.

[JediJones]

Interesting analysis. Steve Deace has taken to calling Trump’s supporters a full-on cult. I wouldn’t go that far, but there is Trump-mania just the same as there was Obama-mania. Again, the problem with Trump though is that at least Obama supporters knew what Obama stood for. Obama just lied to the MSM and independents about it (not supporting same-sex marriage). When you uncover Obama’s old statements, he was extremely liberal. But when you uncover Trump’s old statements, you see he was often very liberal as well.

I want a candidate whose entire history shows he was conservative, and who can pull off lying to the independents to make them think he’s a moderate when necessary. I know Cruz is the true conservative and I certainly hope he’s a good enough liar to trick the moderates into voting for him in the general election.

[jpsb]

No Cruz stated the truth, Trump voters are stupid and Trump is inciting violence towards the peaceful BLM, Muslim Brotherhood, Bernie’s Marxists anarchists and Glenn Becks’ brown shirts. How dare Trump!

[Smokin' Joe]

No. I went to the video and listened to what he said though. I didn't fall for butchered half quote headlines that implied he said something he didn't (typical MSM tactic).

I did notice Trump supporters spewing about how they were not going to support Cruz, etc.

[JediJones]

So Cruz is evil for not condemning the protestors enough, but whenever Trump supporters praise MSNBC or the lamestream media or whoever else for ripping Cruz, they get a pass on that.

[MayflowerMadam]

“So what’s the plan, Trumpeteers? Give me a reason to vote for your guy after calling me a liar and a traitor here on FR these past few months.”

No plan. God knows we wouldn’t want to offend a delicate doily such as yourself. Run along now to the back yard and eat some worms.

[silverleaf]

Bookmarking this one

If Cruz somehow-somehow- makes it to the GOP convention the Republicans will have even worse mobs trying to take him down for being a Christian, a supporter of the Constitution, an abortion denier, a tool of Goldman Sachs, or whatever

The annointed Ted may think BushRomney money and joining forces with the GOPe to take down Trump gives him some immunity from this criminal chaos they are stoking, but it wont

First they came for Trump and he and the rest did nothing
Then they will come for him

[JerseyDvl]

I was wrong for supporting Bush, he was weak willed and didn’t defend himself or the Party from attacks. He evolved into a big spending fiscal liberal and a globalist like all the other Bush’s and worst of all.. Gave us Obama.
Trump will correct many of the ills that have been foisted upon us by your establishment and you will regret aligning with anti-Constitution scholar and Canadian Ted Cruz.

[MayflowerMadam]

“the globalists hiding behind religion.”

And it’s not even a real “religion”. Not many evangelical religions think that Daddy Rafael annointing Ted as “king” is legit.

[JediJones]

Cruz didn’t blame him for it, but he said the tone of Trump’s campaign encourages it. That is simply true from a psychological perspective. Rubio is the proof of that. Rubio would not have insulted Trump’s looks and other things if Trump hadn’t done the trash-talking first himself. When a campaign lowers the bar of discourse, they encourage more of it from their opponents. It doesn’t mean the opponent isn’t also responsible for their actions, but lowering the bar when it comes to insults or not condemning violence clearly is a contagious thing.