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To: vladimir998

There was nothing Christian about the church that did these ghastly acts. Not even of only against one person.
And love your defense, “protestants did it too”.

Of course they did. And too bad the 38 snub hadn’t been invented. Because the protestant judges at Salem, guys like Calvin himself, and a few others deserved a bullet at the moment they were engaged in ecclesiastical murder. And I can happily say none were ordained by Jesus or doing his work.
Neither was Rome back then. Thankfully they are not in error these days.
I do not assign the slightest guilt to the Roman church today. But I also do not accept that the church back then was anything but evil, small minded and oppressive. Most protestants of the era suffered the same disgusting leaders.
But you wont find a protestant celebrating Salem.


16 posted on 02/01/2016 1:24:42 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino

And it could fairly be observed that the murderous habits the Protestants carried, while orders of magnitude less than that of the human organization they broke off from, were mostly not developed by themselves but inherited from the human organization that they disavowed the practices of, but disavowed less well than they thought. A significantly independently biblical take on Christianity took a long time to redevelop. A long period of relearning was necessary.

Most of this grief could have been avoided had the church refused to be incorporated in to Caesar. You are never going to be able to do that kind of amalgam in a godly way.


21 posted on 02/01/2016 1:54:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DesertRhino

“There was nothing Christian about the church that did these ghastly acts.”

Sure there was - Christ’s Church is filled with men and certainly not all of them are perfect.

“Not even of only against one person.”

What?

“And love your defense, “protestants did it too”.”

I made no such defense. Care to make up something else I did not say?

“Of course they did. And too bad the 38 snub hadn’t been invented. Because the protestant judges at Salem, guys like Calvin himself, and a few others deserved a bullet at the moment they were engaged in ecclesiastical murder.”

They were not murdering the Church - that’s what “ecclesiastical murder” would mean. Perhaps you’re thinking of “judicial murder”. The two cannot be synonymous nor are they interchangeable in sense.

“And I can happily say none were ordained by Jesus or doing his work.”

I wouldn’t say that about even Protestants when it comes to “doing his work”. The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways.

“Neither was Rome back then.”

Actually, the Church has always done Christ’s work. The problem is that many people today - especially those who are products of poor education - often have no idea what was going on back then.

“Thankfully they are not in error these days.”

Who isn’t?

“I do not assign the slightest guilt to the Roman church today.”

You have no power to assign guilt in any case.

“But I also do not accept that the church back then was anything but evil, small minded and oppressive.”

Actually, no. And quite frankly you probably have no knowledge of the time or people involved, right?

“Most protestants of the era suffered the same disgusting leaders.”

No, they were different. I bet you don’t know what the difference is.

“But you wont find a protestant celebrating Salem.”

I don’t think you’re seeing anyone celebrating the inquisition either. What you will see, however, is people who actually tell the truth about it rather than spouting nonsense based nothing.

“The pope does not agree with you that protestants are damned.”

How could he since I never, EVER, said any such thing. Care you make up something else while you’re at it? Pointing out that souls are destroyed by heresies is not a statement that all Protestants are damned. You really are making up things out of thin air. I guess that’s what you have to resort to, right?

“You can complain to the Vatican if you disagree.”

We don’t: “Certainly this suffices to show superabundantly by how many roads Modernism leads to the annihilation of all religion. The first step in this direction was taken by Protestantism; the second is made by Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.” (Pope Pius X, Pascendi, 39, (1907).

Attack what I ACTUALLY say all you want. But to falsely say I said something I NEVER said is simply wrong and sinful.


28 posted on 02/01/2016 2:21:18 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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