Posted on 01/16/2016 7:19:08 AM PST by Travis McGee
A fascinating comment on Rick Moran's blog about the Iranian capture of our sailors is making waves in the blogosphere and on Facebook. It makes a lot more sense than any of the official explanations we have received for the capture and subsequent release of the sailors.
Thomas Lipscomb explains:
Flash! A former Navy SEAL, Matt Bracken, just blew up what I have been calling "a pack of lies from the US and Iran" on what the hell happened that got our boats captured and taken to the Farsi Islands.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/calling_bs_on_the_official_story_of_the_iranian_capture_of_two_us_riverine_boats.html#ixzz3xQA8nIM0 Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook
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Cruz brought it up at the beginning of the debate and spent some time with it. Trump brought it up at closing statements.
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I have to agree with this. I wouldn't take it personally, Matt.
At the very least, though, I also say this Thomas Lifson fellow owes you an explanation, and an apology.
We have been needing to behead the Islamic Republic since 1979, and now those suicidal bastards are getting nuclear armed ICBMs.
The Russians may have been evil, but they were not lunatics. They wanted to live, and didn't believe that Allah would send them to paradise if they wiped out a Western City.
The Iranians are religious nut-jobs, and starting a Nuclear war is what they WANT to do.
I'm thinking that if the Navy went through there and just blew the f***ing sh*t out of their speed boats, we would either show them not to f*** with us, or start a war. Both outcomes have positive benefits for the nation, but starting a war with these bastards is probably going to work out to be the greater benefit.
In the long run.
The Liberal Democrat New York Based Media system will only show humiliation that occurs to a Republican president they hate. They will not show humiliation that occurs to their Affirmative Action Token fool who's enacting their Liberal Agenda.
For this reason I have long advocated going to war with these media bastards in every manner that we can wage it, including denying them licenses, filing lawsuits, and boycotting their products and sponsors.
We need to cut the left wing media's throat. We need to cut off funding for them in any way we can think up.
These people are the ones who elected Barack Obama. They have too much power, and we need to take it away from them.
An example of what I meant in my previous message.
We need to cut the throats of the Media. This ought to be our number one focus.
I think many of us are already on the same wavelength, but occasionally the muse speaks to one of us, and we articulate it in a clear and clever way.
As Mark Twain said, "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
I just got it in an email with no source link. They spelled your last name “Blacken”, so it didn’t register in my peabrain that it was you.
Yeah, I fully expect to be one who, after being killed, is described as a dangerous lunatic.
How awful! I wonder if even for 1 moment, those debased sailors considered their brothers in Benghazi.
Kidding aside, at least he cited you, the hat tip to the two ladies was probably because one of them linked him to your post here. Simplest explanation for him not contacting you begins with a "stupid" and ends in "ity".
Back to the big picture, we all know the story is BS. 0 and Carter (ironic name, don't you think?) tip them off on the position of a couple of our boats they're actually quite welcome to raid, and then the first story used is engine trouble - yeah, right, with two boats. Even I coulda solved that problem.
My conclusion, there was something on those boats that was valuable to the Iranians, plus they got the propaganda coup of the USN being subjected to Islam. (Someone here made that observation first, unfortunately I'm not able to cite them...) What would that something have been? Hey, if I knew, it wouldn't be a secret. Plus they seem to have scored some really cool small arms and stuff. The timing, which obviously coincides with the release of several Americans today and the timetable of the relief of the sanctions on the (*ahem*, plural) add up to circumstantial evidence that the two boats and their crews were just flat-assed given up to be humiliated in that way, particularly the girl sailor being forced by the towelheads to wear a towel on her head.
0 and Kerry were up to something here, and Ash Carter must have some real dirt in his past (yeah, I've heard...) to have played along with it.
Scenario B: Extraction team for some kind of recon operation on Farsi Island or someplace near. I wouldn't know, or claim to know, jack about any of that kind of stuff. Point of the story remains the same, though, given up by 0 and his henchmen...
JMO, with standard caveat, I'm often, even usually full of it if you ax my wife's opinion...
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You know Kerry enjoyed swift boating these guys.
They used what you wrote, they know what you think. You generally only contact somebody if you’re making accusations, giving them a chance to respond.
How long did it take for Venona to get out?
Do they have cable news in hell?
Otherwise, I’ll age out and never know.
Thanks, but it’s not the first time AT has used my stuff and not given me a “by-line.” That’s the real issue here. And Lifson himself, my serial submission rejecter. He will use my stuff, but bury my name in the middle. I’m thinking about writing a piece about the sleazy practices of some so-called “conservative websites” where it’s 100% “pay to play.” Keep your eye out for that one.
See my comment to Sara at 76. It’s not the first time, or the worst example. It’s getting old, being given the finger this way.
We need another “Operation Praying Mantis.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
Operation Praying Mantis was an attack on 18 April 1988, by U.S. forces within Iranian territorial waters in retaliation for the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf during the Iran-Iraq war and the subsequent damage to an American warship.
On 14 April, the guided missile frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts struck a mine while deployed in the Persian Gulf as part of Operation Earnest Will, the 1987-1988 convoy missions in which U.S. warships escorted reflagged Kuwaiti oil tankers to protect them from Iranian attacks. The explosion blew a 15-foot hole in Samuel B. Robertsâ’s hull and nearly sank it. The crew saved their ship with no loss of life, and Samuel B. Roberts was towed to Dubai on 16 April. After the mining, U.S. Navy divers recovered other mines in the area. When the serial numbers were found to match those of mines seized along with the Iran Ajr the previous September, U.S. military officials planned a retaliatory operation against Iranian targets in the Persian Gulf.
According to Bradley Peniston, the attack by the U.S. helped pressure Iran to agree to a ceasefire with Iraq later that summer, ending the eight-year conflict between the Persian Gulf neighbors.[3]
On 6 November 2003, the International Court of Justice ruled that “the actions of the United States of America against Iranian oil platforms on 19 October 1987 (Operation Nimble Archer) and 18 April 1988 (Operation Praying Mantis) cannot be justified as measures necessary to protect the essential security interests of the United States of America.” However, the International Court of Justice dismissed Iran’s claim that the attack by United States Navy was a breach of the 1955 Treaty of Amity between the two countries.[4]
This battle was the largest of the five major U.S. surface engagements since the Second World War, which also include the Battle of Chumonchin Chan during the Korean War, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Battle of Dong Hoi during the Vietnam War, and the Action in the Gulf of Sidra in 1986. It also marked the U.S. Navy’s first exchange of anti-ship missiles by opposing ships.
Welcome to the party, s_g.
Option Two, forget it. These guys were just Riverine Squadron, not SEALs or SWCCs (the boat guys who support SEALs).
These were just the five-person crews of boats that serve basically a USCG type function, keeping track of who goes in and out of rivers and ports.
Take any ten random guys and gals off an Navy ship, drop them on two boats, that’s who this was. Being reassigned from Kuwait to Bahrain.
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