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To: GailA
-- Then why couldn't we get rid of DUMBO under the same clauses or Constitutional stated origins? --

Born abroad is easier to argue, just by the structure and text of the constitution (it is a jus soli arrangement).

Why we can't get anything done is rooted in the elites having control of the "official narrative." If the candidates don;t make challenges against each other, and the courts punt (or make up new law with more handwaving), the people are merely spectators.

US citizenship starts first with citizenship of the parents, citizenship in a STATE. That is strongly determined by domicile and residence, but I don;t cease to be a citizen of Illinois when I go to Wisconsin for a day or a week or whatever.

-- But Military Bases are NOT US SOIL. US Citizenship comes from the parent(s) with this factor. --

That is citizenship by blood, and there is an Act of Congress that creates and confers US citizenship as a matter of US law.

-- It does raise questions that the USSC has not addressed in a strong manner. --

On birth abroad, it's been addressed. The anchor baby issue is interestingly, an issue because it creates so many who have deemed to be citizens-at-birth. IMO, SCOTUS got it wrong in Wong-Kim-Ark, and children of alien parents are citizens of their parent's country, not of the US. The 14th amendment is being improperly applied.

-- If you come down to fact on the 2nd Amendment NO gun restriction law is Constitutional. --

That's what SCOTUS said in the Miller case, except it said if the arm had a military use, then it couldn't be restricted. Then a bunch of activist appeals courts read the case for the opposite of what it says, and the falsehood became the truth.

Just like the falsehood that citizen-at-birth=NBC can become the truth. All that has to happen is the people believe. The sun orbits the earth -500 years ago, that was considered metaphysical truth.

170 posted on 01/16/2016 9:05:17 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; CpnHook; Godebert; Berlin_Freeper; Liz; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Carry_Okie; ...

Ted Cruz’s fmr. professor says Cruz is a hypocrite on the Constitution VIDEO
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3384690/posts

Thursday following FBN’s broadcast of the Republican presidential debate, Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe attacked Sen. Ted Cruz ... for his stated on reasoning for his eligibility to run for president of the United States.

According to Tribe, Cruz applies a double standard to his interpretation of the Constitution, to which he deemed Cruz to be a ‘constitutional opportunist’ and a ‘hypocrite.’

‘I’ve done a lot of historical research on it, and so have a lot of other people, and the best evidence seems to be that what they meant... ‘


183 posted on 01/17/2016 3:52:33 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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To: Cboldt
IMO, SCOTUS got it wrong in Wong-Kim-Ark, and children of alien parents are citizens of their parent's country, not of the US.

The 14th Amendment doesn't read "all persons born . . . in the U.S. of parents who are citizens, are citizens of the U.S. . . ." But isn't that effectively how you're trying to mentally re-write it by saying children of aliens should be considered aliens?

There's a lot in the legislative history of the Civil Rights Act and 14th Amendment that anticipates the WKA decision. The Court got it right.

184 posted on 01/17/2016 6:17:44 AM PST by CpnHook
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