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To: biff
Your post makes a lot of assumptions.

The fact remains that the most politically vocal "New Yorkers" are leftists who have moved to New York from other states.

It's very tiresome for those of us who were born and raised in New York City to hear the constant: "Well, I was born in Anytown, USA which is so backwards and superconservative and now I feel like I'm finally home among my real people" stories.

Then they get annoyed when you point out to them that almost all the people they congregate with and feel at home with in NYC are fellow Midwesterners, Southerners, Westerners, etc. who all have the same sob stories about how they had to go to Sunday school and Wednesday Bible study, and football games and eat loads and loads of barbecue and other atrocities.

Meanwhile, many of us locals went to CCD or parochial school, and First Fridays, went to basketball and baseball games, and ate tons of pizza, etc.

Native white Christian ethnic New Yorkers are the most conservative people in NYC, and also only 50% of the white population and 15% of the total population.

Yet the classic idea of a New Yorker in most people's minds is either a blue collar white Irish or Italian dude shouting "Yo, your team sucks! Let's go Yankees!" or a slick banker or lawyer.

The former is a local and is typically patriotic, pro-military, goes hunting and fishing, to church on Sunday, does all the normal American cultural activities. They are the 20% of NYC who voted against Obama.

The latter in real life is usually an import from elsewhere.

126 posted on 01/15/2016 8:31:40 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

That’s pretty accurate about white working class New Yorkers

I lived there remember 8 years....hope big ears is listening..lol

But native Jewish elite on Manhattan used to upper west side in 80s are decidedly Vermont level lib

As are hipsters but you’re right the hipsters are not native usually

I found that I always got along really well with Italians in Brooklyn

I still have friends from Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst

Irish ok too but some were kind of Unionish

New York Pizza wins.....that is not debatable

New York deservedly get a Pass card for 9-11

No one else has lived that since 1941 on our soil

Cruz was not smart to do what he did

And I like him

And Trump

Trump bested Cruz which surprises me

He’s ready

The GOPE KNOWS IT

now I gotta go....370 miles in the rain


145 posted on 01/15/2016 9:14:46 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: wideawake

That sweet story still does not change the fact that NYC votes overwhelmingly liberal.


147 posted on 01/15/2016 9:23:45 AM PST by biff
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