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Ted Cruz is a Naturalized Citizen, not "Natural Born"
Farmer John

Posted on 01/11/2016 4:52:40 AM PST by Joachim

Ted Cruz is a Naturalized Citizen, not "Natural Born"

by Farmer John

The question of who qualifies as a "natural born citizen" may be close in some cases, but the case of Ted Cruz is easy. Constitutionally speaking, Cruz is a naturalized citizen, not "natural born."

Regarding citizenship, the Constitution grants Congress power over a uniform rule of naturalization, not over citizenship generally. Any citizen whose citizenship is derived from an act of Congress is thus a naturalized citizen, constitutionally speaking, and thus not "natural born." The basic principle is stated in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702-3 (1898):

The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution . . . contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. . . . Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

(Emphasis added.) That this principle still holds was recognized in Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)— implicitly in the majority opinion of Blackmun, in which Chief Justice Burger, and Justices Harlan, Stewart, and White joined:

[O]ur law in this area follows English concepts with an acceptance of the jus soli, that is, that the place of birth governs citizenship status except as modified by statute [and] the [Supreme] Court has specifically recognized the power of Congress not to grant a United States citizen the right to transmit citizenship by descent.

(pp. 828-30) and explicitly in the dissent of Brennan, joined by Douglas:

Concededly, petitioner [Bellei] was a citizen at birth, not by constitutional right, but only through operation of a federal statute. In the light of the complete lack of rational basis for distinguishing among citizens whose naturalization was carried out within the physical bounds of the United States, and those, like Bellei, who may be naturalized overseas . . . .

(p. 845, emphasis added) as well as in the dissent of Black, with Douglass and Marshall joining:

Congress is empowered by the Constitution to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization," Art. I, § 8. Anyone acquiring citizenship solely under the exercise of this power is, constitutionally speaking, a naturalized citizen.

(p. 840, Emphasis added).

The argument that Cruz is "natural born" because he was never naturalized is based on the false premise that Cruz was never naturalized. Cruz was naturalized (presumably at birth) by statute under Congress' power to make a uniform rule of naturalization. And since he (apparently) has no other claim to U.S. citizenship, he cannot be considered a "natural born" citizen.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; born; caselaw; cds; citizen; dividedloyalty; election2016; englishlaw; natural; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz; texas; troll; trump4presssecretary
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1 posted on 01/11/2016 4:52:40 AM PST by Joachim
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To: Joachim

It would be a kick-in-the-ass if we got two front runners, Cruz and Mrs. Bill and both of them get disqualified after, say, Super Tuesday, one by being indicted and arrested, the other by the Court for not being a Natural Born.


2 posted on 01/11/2016 4:55:30 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Joachim

Great post!


3 posted on 01/11/2016 4:55:51 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Joachim

What do you farm, Farmer John?


4 posted on 01/11/2016 4:57:01 AM PST by deport
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To: Joachim

Wow, must’ve scored real well in logic class.


5 posted on 01/11/2016 4:58:25 AM PST by HonorInPa
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Bump for later read


6 posted on 01/11/2016 4:58:46 AM PST by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Joachim

I hope you are prepared to be blasted by Cruz supporters.


7 posted on 01/11/2016 4:59:45 AM PST by PJBankard (It is better to be thought an idiot than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: Joachim

Joachim or Mark Levin? Who should I trust?


8 posted on 01/11/2016 5:00:54 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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To: Joachim
Any citizen whose citizenship is derived from an act of Congress is thus a naturalized citizen, constitutionally speaking, and thus not "natural born."

Wait a second here. Since the Constitution never actually defines the term "natural born citizen," and thus is falls to Congress to define that term, isn't its doing so by statute in effect (per the argument made in this post) making EVERYONE a "naturalized" citizen?

9 posted on 01/11/2016 5:01:18 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Joachim
The question is a relatively easy one to resolve as a matter of law.

Those who come to the opposite conclusion, finding Cruz to be NBC, must resort to the framework of a citizen being either naturalized (meaning going through some procedure) or not, and if they don't have to go through a procedure (if the statutory citizenship attaches automatically by circumstances of birth), then they are a natural born citizen. This framework sidesteps the distinction of citizen by operation of statute, and citizenship without resort to statute.

10 posted on 01/11/2016 5:02:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: demshateGod; Joachim

Don’t you mean Farmer John and not Joachim? Joachim posted an article and instead of attacking the article, you are attacking the poster.


11 posted on 01/11/2016 5:03:27 AM PST by PJBankard (It is better to be thought an idiot than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: demshateGod

Not Mark Levin. That schmuck goes crazy at you just for posting stories on Donald Trump that aren’t negative. Just ask Breitbart.


12 posted on 01/11/2016 5:03:31 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Joachim

All this Cruz birther nonsense is a complete and utter embarrassment for Free Republic. You Trumpets ought to be ashamed of yourselves.


13 posted on 01/11/2016 5:03:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I question Mark Levin’s impartiality. Or his sexuality. Or something.


14 posted on 01/11/2016 5:04:23 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I question Mark Levin’s impartiality. Or his sexuality. Or something.


15 posted on 01/11/2016 5:04:24 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Wait a second here. Since the Constitution never actually defines the term "natural born citizen," and thus is falls to Congress to define that term

Natural Born citizen already has a definition, derived from Natural Law, well known to the founding fathers. That is why they provided no definition for it in the constitutional text itself. It's meaning was common knowledge.

16 posted on 01/11/2016 5:04:40 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Joachim
The Constitution, Art. II, says in pertinant part: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Since everyone who was a citizen at the time of adoption is dead we can remove the grandfather clause wording. We are left with “No Person except a natural born Citizen [...] shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

Why does the Constitution speak of “citizens” and separately of “natural born citizens”? Why is the word “natural” inserted? It is a matter of allegiance.

A person can be a “citizen” if they were citizens or subjects in some other country first but have come here and met the naturalization requirements. Also, if one is the offspring of a citizen and a non-citizen, then one is a US citizen. However, in both these cases it can be argued that the person might choose allegiance to their former country or to the country of the foreign-born parent or at least the allegiance might be considered divided. That is, there is no natural allegiance of the offspring to one or the other parent’s country. It is this divided or alienated allegiance that the Constitutional provision is designed to prohibit.

If, however, both of one’s parents are themselves US citizens, then one is a “citizen” as well as a “natural born citizen”. The “natural born citizen” is one who at birth has no natural allegiance to any other country and the Framers felt could be trusted to be loyal to the US and not act as a foreign agent. [footnote: Also, in their time, the rules of royal succession held sway throught much of the world and the Founders wished to forstall any potential claims by the crowned heads of Europe or their scions to sovereignty in the US.]

Note that native born is not the same as natural born. Native born simply refers to the place of one’s birth, i.e., one’s nativity. The term does not speak to the legal circumstances of a birth, merely to its location.

17 posted on 01/11/2016 5:05:05 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: demshateGod
-- Joachim or Mark Levin? Who should I trust? --

Neither. Study the authorities and arguments, and make up your own mind.

18 posted on 01/11/2016 5:05:51 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Joachim

I’m a natural born citizen, having been born to US citizens in the state of MN. My daughter was born in Toronto Canada, and has a Canadian birth certificate, and is eligible for Canadian citizenship. My wife was not a US citizen at that time. When my wife became a naturalized US citizen in 1973, the INS issued her a Certificate of Naturalization, at the same time, my daughter was also given a Certificate of Naturalization (she was 4 at the time).

My bet is that when Cruz’ father became naturalized, they also issued Ted a Certificate of Naturalization.

So, I’m not quite sure whether Cruz is eligible to run for president. He definitely needs to get this cleared up in a court.


19 posted on 01/11/2016 5:06:07 AM PST by euram
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To: PJBankard

Farmer John. Oh, that’s who I should trust.


20 posted on 01/11/2016 5:06:17 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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