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1 posted on 01/07/2016 11:32:52 AM PST by The Looking Spoon
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stunningly illogical attack

Maybe someone should explain to this guy what primaries are for.
2 posted on 01/07/2016 11:41:49 AM PST by JoSixChip
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Its too bad that the issue is unresolved. It can’t be wished away. We don’t resolve things with articles from liberal colleges — we actually resolve them with Notice and hearing before the courts and through an appeal process and then by SCOTUS.
Cruz has two options. 1. he can wait for the Democrats to take a judicial track that they control. ( hillary has absolute standing) or 2. he can move for a declaratory judgement and hope to fast track it. If he waits and is picked for vice president by Trump, Then he will be enjoined for two years from taking the oath. Once you take the oath, the issue is moot so he will be enjoined.
It is all well and good for us to express our opinions and desires but it doesn’t make a tinkers damn. Cruz should have seen this coming as inevitable and gone to the courts 9 months ago and it might be over but IT IS GOING TO THE COURTS if he ever gets any traction.


3 posted on 01/07/2016 11:48:49 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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I see nothing more illogical in politics these days than people propagating the notion that the son of a foreign citizen could also simultaneously be a natural born citizen of the United States.

What on Earth do people think the purpose of the clause was? Filler?


4 posted on 01/07/2016 11:50:10 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization.

Not entirely accurate. in the early years US citizen women could not bestow citizenship on children born abroad.

There have also been residency requirements for the US citizen to be able to bestow citizenship to their child at birth if born abroad.

It has been proven that Cruses mother had the appropriate residency requirement at the time of his birth to immediately bestow citizenship.

5 posted on 01/07/2016 11:50:47 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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Let throw some logic at this. We know without doubt the founders were trying to ensure allegiance to the United States when they added the NBC requirement.

Now if we are to go by the one citizen parent argument think about this. A forty year old citizen of the US has lived here all his life. When he travels abroad he visits China and has sex with a woman in China and leaves and never sees the mother again. The baby grows up in China and raised as a loyal communist. How could this person have any allegiance to the United States? Yet some here believe this person to be a natural born citizen of the US and would be qualified for president.

do you think the founders would have agreed?

6 posted on 01/07/2016 11:53:45 AM PST by precisionshootist
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This stupid article has been written by someone who doesn’t know the difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen.Look up E. Vattel’s Law of Nations definition of Natural Born Citizen which the Constitutional Committee accepted on the advice of future Chief Justice John Jay.
Spreading stupid lies trying to make them accepted by people who do not know the facts is just another media practice leading this country downhill.
A Natural Born Citizen is one born of TWO Citizen parents, not just one. A citizen is by ONE parent being American.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 was ratified in 1791 and has never been changed nor modified.


9 posted on 01/07/2016 12:04:26 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Sorry, you are the one being illogical. I am still waiting for a clear and reasoned explanation of the difference between “citizen” and “natural born citizen”. They are categorically different from each other. Explain the difference.


10 posted on 01/07/2016 12:04:40 PM PST by bioqubit (bioqubit: Educated Men Make Terrible Slaves - Aristotle)
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BTW, no one is “attacking” his citizenship. This phrasing is a sure fire giveaway that a liberal wrote this.

Many of us are questioning his eligibility under the provisions of Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the US constitution, using sound constitutional, legal, and historical reasoning for doing so.


13 posted on 01/07/2016 12:08:20 PM PST by DMZFrank
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We're all gonna jump that shark tonight photo CruzJumpsShark_zpssxu1xwj9.gif

When the clock strikes twelve, we'll cool off then, start jump'n that shark all over again. /s
16 posted on 01/07/2016 12:12:40 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Born free!)
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More like *hypocritical*.

Let’s see obama produce a birth certificate first.


26 posted on 01/07/2016 12:29:55 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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We were taught a natural citizen had to be born on American Soil. I won’t touch these arguments. If Obama can be President anyone can.


34 posted on 01/07/2016 1:30:55 PM PST by IC Ken
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Wow.....how many morons on the right are going to sacrifice their ‘reputations’ by defending Ted Cruz's ineligibility??

natural born Citizen == illegal alien

There's a Harvard law review that explains it somewhere.

**hick**

37 posted on 01/07/2016 1:56:54 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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