If I was able to leave the earth, I'd set my course for the North Star...Continue in that direction till I get well beyond the 2nd heaven and I will run into God...Is heaven a place or a state of mind???
Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh_14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
If Jesus says heaven is a place, it is a place...