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1 posted on 12/01/2015 8:59:18 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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Hmmm... I wonder if Obama is (finally) in a lose-lose position here?

He does not want hilLIARy to be president, clearly... because once she has power and he doesn’t it will be off to Ft. Marcy Park for him...

But if he cuts her throat now, she takes him down with her.

This could be fun to watch.


2 posted on 12/01/2015 9:02:45 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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Has this ever happened in the history of this country where a US candidate for President was under investigation? And not only that, KEPT running? Isn’t his just so telling though about the rampant corruption running in our government today? “Oh pay no mind to the corruption, who cares about that! You will vote for her!”


3 posted on 12/01/2015 9:03:25 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Actually, I feel the hatred between the two camps is tangible, but the goals are roughly aligned. But I think that Hillary is the last thing Obama is worried about now, truthfully. My feeling is that he’s concentrated right now on doing as much damage to this country as he can: Syrian (Jihadists) by the hundreds of thousands, Mexican illegals by the hundreds of thousands, international commitments (difficult to undo) by the dozen, incitement of blacks via BLM and a whole host of things. Infest this government with as many hidden rabid ideologues as possible and let them sap their way to destruction throughout their tenure (e.g., a “wise latina” and a Lesbo in the SC)

I really don’t think Hillary is in his calculus right now. He may just drop the hammer on her though just because she’s some white b!tch.


6 posted on 12/01/2015 9:06:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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Time is running out to get on state ballot for the primaries. So the only way for the plan to work is to get Joe nominated at the convention. I am not sure how this works because for decades the convention in both parties has been a formality.


7 posted on 12/01/2015 9:09:10 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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That Obama is just a suit-front is absolutely true. That the Obamas hate the Clintons, not so much. In vying for power, yes, but they share the same agendas, run by the same people, for the same reasons. Not a lot of room for dissention there.


8 posted on 12/01/2015 9:09:22 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Isn’t this old conjecture
Biden has already said NO Run


13 posted on 12/01/2015 9:24:14 AM PST by uncbob
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When Trump takes the nomination, you will see obuma throw Hillary under the bus...

You don’t think obuma is going to let Hillary ruin what ‘legacy’ he has worked so hard for, to have her wipe it out?

It’s not Trump he’s worried about, it’s Hillary....she has the ‘goods’ on obuma before he ever went to the White House, that is what the Clintons do...it’s called ‘blackmail’....


14 posted on 12/01/2015 9:27:17 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I think the direction of that decision was signalled when Biden said he would not run.


16 posted on 12/01/2015 9:28:45 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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One such power merchant is Valerie Jarrett

Too much credit. She's a marionette controlling a marionette.


17 posted on 12/01/2015 9:30:40 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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excuse me, when he said he was not running. There is a difference. The decision could be superseded if Hussein does not get the required ironclad guarantees from Mrs. Bill. Democrats are okay with last minute substitutions. And they think they will win with whomever they proffer for “election.”


18 posted on 12/01/2015 9:31:46 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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I stand by my claim that Biden chose not to run strategically so that they can indict Hillary in the spring, and he can play white knight at the convention. No fight, no debates, no vetting, and lots of media love.


20 posted on 12/01/2015 9:35:27 AM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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One such power merchant is Valerie Jarrett, the Obama advisor Bill Clinton believes to be responsible for generating the series of damaging, New York Times articles questioning Hillary's Benghazi lies and State Department email fiasco. "The Obamas are out to get us any way they can," said Clinton to a source working for New York Post editorialist Ed Klein.

I think most observers have viewed Biden's absence from the race thus far as an indication that Valerie Jarrett and the Hillary camp have come to an accord. The entire notion of a "third term by proxy" is not really about Obama, so much as it is the power structure that is using him like a sock puppet.

21 posted on 12/01/2015 9:35:35 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Tis The Season
To End The FReepathon


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22 posted on 12/01/2015 9:40:19 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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President Anus’s best hope of preserving his putrid legacy is for Ten Bush to be elected.


23 posted on 12/01/2015 9:42:03 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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Lenin hated Trotsky too. It didn’t help us much.


24 posted on 12/01/2015 9:44:07 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Would like to see Hillary go nuclear on Obama - maybe college transcripts, previously unreleased info on his radical connections, who knows?

It would be fun to watch.


26 posted on 12/01/2015 9:47:14 AM PST by PGR88
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The Chicago bolsheviks are playing a nuanced game. Their first priority is to retain control of the WH. They can't just take Clinton down. They'd like to ditch Hillary but they don't have a viable substitute candidate. So their game is to pressure Hillary into agreeing to a regency presidency; she gets to bear the title but they get to put their people in the right places to effect policy, make appointments. Hillary's ego and power craving won't admit of such an arrangement so the Chi-bolshies have to keep nudging up the pressure. Hillary's calculation is like Sam Spade's in The Maltese Falcon:
“If you kill me, how are you gonna get the bird? And if I know you can't afford to kill me, how are you gonna scare me into giving it to you?”

'the bird' being control of the executive function of government.
27 posted on 12/01/2015 9:47:25 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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Ping


28 posted on 12/01/2015 10:00:42 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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Obama will step on Hillary for momentary glory.


30 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:33 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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the only way the hag won't go to the WH is when obozo announces martial law and cancels the 2016 election
31 posted on 12/01/2015 10:01:52 AM PST by drypowder
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