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1 posted on 11/01/2015 8:14:56 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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Surely the Obama disaster cleared away any possible white “guilt.”

Carson would not win against Hillary.


29 posted on 11/01/2015 8:51:07 AM PST by Cedar
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I know my extended family better than I know anyone else. Most of them are conservative but not at all political.

I like Cruz but I’m the only one, most of them don’t get him because they aren’t into politics. They are, however, fed up with the direction things are going and they loathe politicians. Most of them are excited about Trump and will crawl over broken glass to vote for him. The ones who don’t like him, (because they think he is rude), like Carson. Some of them like Huckabee because he seems like a good guy.

So thats the split among conservative non-politicals. Trump by far number one followed by Carson and Huck just based on the belief that they are moral.


30 posted on 11/01/2015 8:53:39 AM PST by marron
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The guilt is all on the democrat side.

Conservatives recognize Excellence and principle.


33 posted on 11/01/2015 8:56:04 AM PST by ADSUM
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"He is... a conservative Republican. "

That is incorrect. He was not even a registered Republican until he decided to run for President.

And Conservative? MOST of his views are not conservative. He is a moderate at best who leans rightish on a few things, and who leans left on some very important things.

34 posted on 11/01/2015 9:01:10 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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So let's stipulate that you are for Trump and you will crawl through broken glass to vote for him.

Now switch to the break room in the workplace. As you walk in there, you see that some of your co-workers are talking about the election and the discussion is getting heated. A couple of brassy loudmouths from Marketing Dept. are dominating the discussion and spouting Democrat talking points, saying "How can you be for a man (Trump) who says that all Mexicans are rapists and killers and who wants to cut welfare so he can take care of veterans?"

One of them sees that you have entered the breakroom and she turns towards you with her hands petulantly placed on her hips and says in her most hostile tone "And who are YOU voting for?"

You stand there frozen like a deer in the headlights. You want to holler back at the snippy broad from Marketing that you are voting for Trump and if she has a problem with that, then too bad. But then you think about your career and maybe that you won't get that promotion or that raise if it gets known in the office that you are one of those "right wing wack jobs."

So you sort of shuffle nervously with eyes downcast and stammer "...Well, I've been taking a serious look at that Ben Carson fellow, I kind of like the way he's always so calm, cool and collected..."

The bitch on wheels from Marketing clearly has the wind knocked out her sails with that unexpected response, after all, no liberal is going to attack you for supporting Ben Carson, so she replies: "Oh, well, yes, I think he's a decent fellow too, it's nice to see that the Republican party seems to be easing up on their war on blacks...", as she takes a sip from her $8 Starbucks double mocha lattina caramel cappuccino.

Anyway, I have a feeling that scenario is occurring all across the country. Ben Carson is providing safe haven for those who really support Trump but aren't brave enough (yet) to come out and say it publicly. Carson is sort of a convenient place for closet Trump supporters to park their vote.

Call it TA (Trump Anonymous) with it's own patented 12-step program.

35 posted on 11/01/2015 9:02:10 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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I forgot to post the picture of that bitch from Marketing...the scourge of the workplace breakroom.


36 posted on 11/01/2015 9:05:54 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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The article says he is conservative, he is an amnesty shill and gun control advocate which should put that lie to rest.


37 posted on 11/01/2015 9:08:47 AM PST by nomad
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I am white and have no guilt. Carson is not my 1st choice, but I could live with a Prez Carson. When it comes to blacks, Herman Cain WAS my 1st choice.


38 posted on 11/01/2015 9:09:13 AM PST by umgud (v)
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Sorry, that was Obama.


39 posted on 11/01/2015 9:12:35 AM PST by headstamp 2
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40 posted on 11/01/2015 9:20:07 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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Carson’s for amnesty, more gun control laws, has a Farrakhan supporter as one of his top aids, has said that he and Al Sharpton want the same things, only registered as a republican last year.

I’ve always felt that it was the “white guilters” who are eager to vote for any black guy with an R after his name that are driving his numbers up. IA for example, is filled with millions of people who were brought up on Jane Elliot’s BS programs, so it’s not surprising Carson is doing well there.

Four years ago Cain was riding high in the polls for the exact same reason.


44 posted on 11/01/2015 9:38:23 AM PST by euram
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I said this WEEKS ago. Carson is nothing but another RINO.
A white man with Carson’s ‘qualifications’ would be laughed off the stage.


45 posted on 11/01/2015 9:38:27 AM PST by patriot08 (4th geneneration Texan (girl type))
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This article doesn’t explain Herman Cain or Alan Keyes on the Republican side, either.


50 posted on 11/01/2015 9:58:23 AM PST by tbw2
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Ummm, the fact that he is an outsider and doesn’t have legislative record to condemn him?


53 posted on 11/01/2015 10:08:18 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Ben Carson's distinguished medical background and genial manner make him uniquely credible and appealing as a critic of Obamacare and as a potential reformer of the American healthcare system. That is particularly of interest to Republican primary voters, who skew toward an older demographic reliant on or near to Medicare coverage and worried about their need for affordable, quality health care to remedy the ailments of aging.

In addition, Carson draws GOP social conservative support in that he is a faithful Christian of the fundamentalist Seventh Day Adventist sect. Here too, for devoted Christian Republicans, Carson's soft voice, pleasant manner, and relative lack of political bombast tend to add to the strength and sincerity of his presentation.

54 posted on 11/01/2015 10:13:46 AM PST by Rockingham
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I still maintain that Carson’s numbers are basically, pro-outsider, anti-Trump numbers. If you’re looking for an outsider, but don’t like Trump, he’s your guy. Nothing related to his debate performances would drive these numbers.


56 posted on 11/01/2015 10:27:31 AM PST by cincinnati65
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“...He is Black and a conservative Republican...”

He’s a *conservative* republican? Since when? Or does the author mean, “he’s a republican somewhat more conservative than 0bama and most democrats.”


59 posted on 11/01/2015 11:02:54 AM PST by jaydee770
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If we happen to like a black candidate it's racism,
if we don't like a black candidate it's even more racism.

Sigh!

I long for the day when they stop throwing accusations of racism at every turn.
None of these pundits even stop to consider that a large percentage of the electorate listen to what Carson says and what he stands for, not what he looks like.

60 posted on 11/01/2015 11:16:26 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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People don’t yet recognize that he’s a stealth amnesty candidate.
He seems like an outsider, but he’s for amnesty for illegal aliens and their employers.
The only Americans who want their country invaded are those profitting from it.


62 posted on 11/01/2015 11:40:14 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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>> Simple analysis shows Ben Carsons support is driven by the White guilt

Fortunately, I have had my shots. Now I am immune to white guilt and I see Carson for what he is: a poor choice for POTUS.


65 posted on 11/01/2015 1:05:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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