Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
This is the 114th day of the Twin Peaks Massacre coverup. It is worth noting for two lamentable reasons.
First, the degree to which government officials have been uncooperative, obstructive and evasive about the Massacre is prima facie evidence that there is an official coverup. There was no probable cause to believe that most of the 177, or 182, or so, people arrested that day were guilty of engaging in organized criminal activity. There is probable cause to believe that police murdered at least six men and may have attempted to murder 20 more.
The second reason to note the ongoing coverup is the apparent disappearance of what just a few years ago was being called the investigative impulse in American journalism. The investigative impulse began, according to Jon Marshall of Northwestern Universitys Medill School of Journalism, in the 1600s, when Enlightenment philosophers taught that people have a right to question their leaders.
To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup. To its credit, the Houston Chronicle has. Any time a prosecutors office or a politician does not want people talking about something, one should raise a red flag and insist we talk about it, a law professor named Patrick Metze told the Chronicle this morning. They may say it is to protect the investigation, but they are protecting themselves from whatever it is that they dont want us to see or know about. You can read the entire Chronicle piece here.
Based on information supplied by various sources who believe their lives, careers and pensions are in actual danger and who have spoken with The Aging Rebel under conditions of either off the record or deep background, this page will continue to report that the Twin Peaks Massacre was the result of a contrived and avoidable confrontation between members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. The Aging Rebel believes that the confrontation was engineered by and anticipated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Texas Department of Public Safety and a Waco area law enforcement agency that was not the Waco Police Department. The Aging Rebel also believes that these police agencies, and possibly the Waco Police Department, began physically preparing for an armed confrontation to include the use of deadly force in the Twin Peaks restaurant parking lot at or before dawn on May 17. And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. Investigating This Mess
The Associated Press defines information gained off the record as information that cannot be used for publication. The same news agency and most publications define deep background as information that can be used but without attribution. The source does not want to be identified in any way, even on condition of anonymity. Generally, information gained off the record can only be used after being substantiated by additional independent sources. Off the record information tells reporters where to llok and what to look for.
Off the record information about federal police actions is often substantiated by filing Freedom of Information Act requests with, for example, the Disclosure Division of the ATF. The information requests involving bikers are almost routinely denied on the grounds of either what the FOIA Act calls Exemption Seven or one of three Exclusions.
The exempt information is defined as, Certain types of information compiled for law enforcement purposes. The three exclusions are: One, Subject of a criminal investigation or proceeding is unaware of the existence of records concerning the pending investigation or proceeding and disclosure of such records would interfere with the investigation or proceeding; two, Informant records maintained by a criminal law enforcement agency and the individuals status as an informant is not known; and three, Existence of FBI foreign intelligence, counterintelligence or international terrorism records are classified fact.
Exclusion three is one reason why motorcycle clubs are frequently described as transnational gangs.
Taken together, the exemption and exclusions explain why gang investigations are always classified as ongoing even when the newest information in those investigations is more than a decade old.
After a FOIA request is denied, large news gathering organizations and some private law firms have the means to bring suit in federal court to discover exempt and excluded information. The Aging Rebel does not have the resources to pursue such lawsuits at this time. This page is aware that many of its conclusions about what happened in Waco on May 17 are unsubstantiated sand have been described as speculative. As one 23-year-old reporter recently put it, A blog favorable to motorcycle clubs citing an undisclosed source is not credible.
Credible or not, the authorities in Texas have been blatantly manipulating public opinion since the day of the Massacre and the Department of Justice has, as yet, not chosen to intervene. One plausible explanation for that inaction is that the Department of Justice has been involved since sometime before May 1.
The Aging Rebel stands by its coverage of the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre and will continue to pursue the story.
Ok...
Are you quoting something here?
Or are you merely stating your opinion?
“Or are you merely stating your opinion? “
You got to be crazy
You got to have a real need
You got to sleep on your toes ...
No. Actually I asked a relatively simple either/or question that should not have strained you to answer.
Your answer on the other hand has the appearance of the rantings of a crazyman, if you are looking for the less than sane...
Shall we try again? (Original question repeated below.)
Are you quoting something here?
Or are you merely stating your opinion?
“By any reasonable standard, the killing appeared to have been wildly mishandled, with a small army of heavily armed forces (even a helicopter) confronting one agitated civilian outside his own home. Hed only pointed his gun at himself, and almost certainly could have been talked into peaceful surrender. (Indeed, hed tried to surrender, only to be shot at as he attempted to exit his vehicle in the driveway.”
I wonder why this Marine, Sheriff, and founder of the first SWAT team in Utah would lie like that?
The old cuss is a fan of urban peasant music:
Here’s the lyrics.
I think it goes a long way in explaining his mindset.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pink+floyd/dogs_20108596.html
Well, Watters/Gilmore were crazy... ;-)
Still don’t know which one’s Pink..
You got the quote WRONG. Get it right next time by looking it up, 1 Timothy 6:10, in the Bible, in a discussion about those desiring to be rich:
For the love of money is at the root of all evils.
MONEY is an inanimate object neither good nor evil.
It's love of money -- making the acquisition of money a top priority -- that is the root of all evil.
And no, not just "today," but always.
If you're going to quote the Bible, quote it correctly.
Some way...Somehow...
...I shall carry on! ;)
I was worried!!
I am not Jim Robinson.
I just thought
First time for everything.
Source that.
I’m a survivor.
Pink Floyd. “Money” Dark side of the Moon album.
NONSEQUITOR. Troll tactic by Texas Gator.
Troll alert.
Please, please, please don’t break out in that song with Beyonce wailing.....I beg of you.
Very funny.
Beyonce wailing has been barred from entry on this thread, but nobody said anything against Clare Torry. Yet.
Not exactly a first thing in the morning type of song, but perhaps our listeners Down Under, near the other side of Midnight, could find the time for it.
I was always partial to the Final Cut album. Gunners Dream. Not now John. Paranoid eyes. Two suns in the sunset. Awesome stuff. Too bad Waters is such a lib putz. But his daddy issues made for cool songs.
When the ‘clubs’ started doing Toys for Tots it was for image purposes ONLY. The thugs who ride bikes are gangsters and it is all they want to be. sure they ride but what they really care about is drinking, selling drugs, beating up other gangsters.......
Not sure why some FR folks are quick to blame any one other than the gang for what happened to them.
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