Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
This is the 114th day of the Twin Peaks Massacre coverup. It is worth noting for two lamentable reasons.
First, the degree to which government officials have been uncooperative, obstructive and evasive about the Massacre is prima facie evidence that there is an official coverup. There was no probable cause to believe that most of the 177, or 182, or so, people arrested that day were guilty of “engaging in organized criminal activity.” There is probable cause to believe that police murdered at least six men and may have attempted to murder 20 more.
The second reason to note the ongoing coverup is the apparent disappearance of what just a few years ago was being called “the investigative impulse” in American journalism. The investigative impulse began, according to Jon Marshall of Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism, “in the 1600s, when Enlightenment philosophers taught that ‘people have a right to question their leaders.’”
To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup. To its credit, the Houston Chronicle has. “Any time a prosecutor’s office or a politician does not want people talking about something, one should raise a red flag and insist we talk about it,” a law professor named Patrick Metze told the Chronicle this morning. “They may say it is to protect the investigation, but they are protecting themselves from whatever it is that they don’t want us to see or know about.” You can read the entire Chronicle piece here.
Based on information supplied by various sources who believe their lives, careers and pensions are in actual danger and who have spoken with The Aging Rebel under conditions of either “off the record” or “deep background,” this page will continue to report that the Twin Peaks Massacre was the result of a contrived and avoidable confrontation between members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. The Aging Rebel believes that the confrontation was engineered by and anticipated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Texas Department of Public Safety and a Waco area law enforcement agency that was not the Waco Police Department. The Aging Rebel also believes that these police agencies, and possibly the Waco Police Department, began physically preparing for an armed confrontation to include the use of deadly force in the Twin Peaks restaurant parking lot at or before dawn on May 17. And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. Investigating This Mess
The Associated Press defines information gained “off the record” as information that “cannot be used for publication.” The same news agency and most publications define “deep background” as information that “can be used but without attribution. The source does not want to be identified in any way, even on condition of anonymity.” Generally, information gained off the record can only be used after being substantiated by additional independent sources. Off the record information tells reporters where to llok and what to look for.
Off the record information about federal police actions is often substantiated by filing Freedom of Information Act requests with, for example, the Disclosure Division of the ATF. The information requests involving bikers are almost routinely denied on the grounds of either what the FOIA Act calls “Exemption Seven” or one of three “Exclusions.”
The exempt information is defined as, “Certain types of information compiled for law enforcement purposes.” The three exclusions are: One, “Subject of a criminal investigation or proceeding is unaware of the existence of records concerning the pending investigation or proceeding and disclosure of such records would interfere with the investigation or proceeding;” two, “Informant records maintained by a criminal law enforcement agency and the individual’s status as an informant is not known; and three, “Existence of FBI foreign intelligence, counterintelligence or international terrorism records are classified fact.”
Exclusion three is one reason why motorcycle clubs are frequently described as “transnational gangs.”
Taken together, the exemption and exclusions explain why “gang investigations” are always classified as “ongoing” even when the newest information in those investigations is more than a decade old.
After a FOIA request is denied, large news gathering organizations and some private law firms have the means to bring suit in federal court to discover exempt and excluded information. The Aging Rebel does not have the resources to pursue such lawsuits at this time. This page is aware that many of its conclusions about what happened in Waco on May 17 are unsubstantiated sand have been described as “speculative.” As one 23-year-old reporter recently put it, “A blog favorable to motorcycle clubs citing an undisclosed source…is not credible.”
Credible or not, the authorities in Texas have been blatantly manipulating public opinion since the day of the Massacre and the Department of Justice has, as yet, not chosen to intervene. One plausible explanation for that inaction is that the Department of Justice has been involved since sometime before May 1.
The Aging Rebel stands by its coverage of the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre and will continue to pursue the story.
Platters, right?
If you think the Mongols are just some group of guys who are misundertstood then you lack a basic understanding of who and what they are and always have been
“Photos from the scene showed bikers wearing the insignias of the Cossacks, Bandidos, Scimitars and Vaqueros.”
In case you thought they were just out for a toys for tots run
“None of that has anything to do with anything I have ever posted.”
As the keeper of the Waco threads, I just thought you would like to be kept informed of the facts.
“In case you thought they were just out for a toys for tots run”
Not very publicized but the cops ‘evaluate’ the bikers leaving after dropping off the toys. Amazing how many bikers think it is cool to bring guns and meth to toy run for kids.
“In case you thought they were just out for a toys for tots run”
According to this that is where it really started.
In the case of Waco, the idea that the entire thing was a false flag cooked up by Waco to cull the herd of biker outlaws ignores the very real and documented context that led to the meeting. And that context is a bloody feud between the Bandidos and Cossacks that needed no “outside agitator” to turn it into chaos.
According to multiple police statements and newspaper reports, the tension between the crews goes back nearly a year, and is over drug trafficking, respect taxes and colors – all familiar issues in the world of outlaw motorcycle gangs. Hostilities appear to have begun when Bandidos members beat Cossack at a Toys for Tots event on December 6. Then, a week later, three Bandidos burst into a bar and opened fire, killing a Cossacks member. In March, there were multiple fights between the two clubs, including a Cossacks group beating and robbing a Bandidos member, then several weeks later, the Bandidos returning the favor with a beating of a Cossacks rider. All of this violence is standard when dealing with biker feuds, epics conflicts that have seen men executed wholesale, sometimes by their own club.
So any conspiracy theorist’s idea that the Bandidos and Cossacks were just getting together for an amiable brunch over mimosas and crepes is simply wrong.
https://skeptoid.com/blog/2015/06/09/the-truth-about-waco-biker-shooting-truthers/
http://www.peaceofficerfilm.com/screenings/
https://player.vimeo.com/video/118632574
Since the late 1970’s there has been a 15,000% increase in SWAT team raids in the United States.
Peace Officer is a feature documentary about the increasingly militarized state of American police as told through the story of William “Dub” Lawrence, a former sheriff who established and trained his rural state’s
first SWAT team only to see that same unit kill his son-in-law in a controversial standoff 30 years
These events are contextualized within a growing national phenomenon of violent SWAT raids and governmental immunity laws gone amok in the War on Drugs. Officers both in cities and small towns like Dub’s are routinely armed with military surplus weapons and equipment, and federal incentives to use what they are given. All of this has lead to a 15,000% increase in SWAT team raids in the United States since the late 1970’s. Peace Officer follows Dub as he obsessively picks apart these cases from his unique perspective that combines the zeal of a rule-of-law detective with the grief of a victim.
“I think life would be a lot greater if I could attract somebody.”
So I see you don’t want to discuss the merits.
But that is SOP.
The merits!
In the case of Waco, the idea that the entire thing was a false flag cooked up by Waco to cull the herd of biker outlaws ignores the very real and documented context that led to the meeting. And that context is a bloody feud between the Bandidos and Cossacks that needed no “outside agitator” to turn it into chaos.
According to multiple police statements and newspaper reports, the tension between the crews goes back nearly a year, and is over drug trafficking, respect taxes and colors – all familiar issues in the world of outlaw motorcycle gangs. Hostilities appear to have begun when Bandidos members beat Cossack at a Toys for Tots event on December 6. Then, a week later, three Bandidos burst into a bar and opened fire, killing a Cossacks member. In March, there were multiple fights between the two clubs, including a Cossacks group beating and robbing a Bandidos member, then several weeks later, the Bandidos returning the favor with a beating of a Cossacks rider. All of this violence is standard when dealing with biker feuds, epics conflicts that have seen men executed wholesale, sometimes by their own club.
So any conspiracy theorist’s idea that the Bandidos and Cossacks were just getting together for an amiable brunch over mimosas and crepes is simply wrong.
https://skeptoid.com/blog/2015/06/09/the-truth-about-waco-biker-shooting-truthers/
Ah, and you are the winner?
Spending 14 hour days here, spinning your yarns.
Just waiting for the Pizza Hut to close and you get off.
Money ... so they say ... IS the root of all evil ... today ...
Clearly you are not interested in what the former Sheriff has to say about police militarization.
Peace Officer is a feature documentary about the increasingly militarized state of American police as told through the story of William “Dub” Lawrence, a former sheriff who established and trained his rural state’s
first SWAT team.
“Clearly you are not interested in what the former Sheriff has to say about police militarization.”
Clearly you weren’t interested enough to even post a comment for me to respond to. If he had something to say, you should post it.
I don’t go on fishing trips ...
“Peace Officer is a feature documentary about the increasingly militarized state of American police as told through the story of William “Dub” Lawrence, a former sheriff who established and trained his rural state’s
first SWAT team.”
Dub should be greatful that his son-in-law didn’t kill his daughter or grandchildren.
Dub’s SIL had previous cases of violence against Dub’s daughter.
The ‘film’ site says the SIL was a danger to no one!
LOL. He had fired his gun in an argument with Dub’s daughter BEFORE the police got there.
The stand-off lasted twelve hours. He was killed when he fired his gun.
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