You know, like *this*:
Posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:54 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
Oh for heaven's sake, dearest 'pipe, would you please quit with "hedging your bets?"
You got a beef with The Donald?
If so, please be specific about your objection(s).
Otherwise, would you kindly suspend your "invasion of the zombies" point of view? At least until such time as you actually get better footing on the ground?
If so, that would be great. HUGS!!!
I think you’re projecting that Trump is worried about “demographic trends.” There’s nothing in his history to suggest he cares about that. He once said Romney should’ve had a softer message towards hispanics before flip-flopping to being hardcore against illegals.
As for loving the great America “before” Obama, he’s been complaining about our bad trade deals since at least 1988 on the Letterman show. He’s always had things to complain about.
He has also been being asked about and thinking about running for president since at least 1988. He’s an over-achiever and he wants to win because it would be a great achievement. We can assume he would govern according to his values. It’s just a little bit hard to ascertain what all of his true values are.
LOL...nailed it.
You know, like *this*:
Megyn Kelly's a different situation. The moderators are already part of the story. Kelly asked the kind of question a candidate should probably expect. Reporters shouldn't have to throw softballs or be accused of trying to "get" a candidate.
There were plenty of ways a candidate could deal with a question like that and disarm or maybe even win over a reporter. All of the complaining and back-tweeting wasn't very impressive.
Trump has said and done some good things, but he may have too thin a skin to be president. Somebody used to taking risks and putting himself forward -- good things -- shouldn't be so sensitive. I think his candidacy may crash and burn and leave a lot of trouble behind.
You got a beef with The Donald? If so, please be specific about your objection(s).
OK.. Gotsya...
Donald Trump is a RINO... IF he’s a republican at all..
He’s the Anti-Cruz Missile.. a Ringer.. Poseur.. Person “sent in” to derail Ted Cruz...
You know.. the Ted Cruz that WILL reduce the size and scope of federal givernment.. that there->> Ted Cruz..
Donald Cruz WILL NOT.. he will expand federal gov’t AND raise Taxes..
Literally the ONLY way he can do some what he talks about..
To his credit— he BOASTS he can make americas Socialist federal gov’t more efficient, which is IMPOSSIBLE..
He says he will bring business back into America by better “DEALINGs” with foreign gov’ts.. and much more of “that” kind of talk..
However; WITH a BIGGER STRONGER and more ROBUST more efficient federal giv’t.. conservatives should be going.???.. WAZUP wid dat?
THATS SOCIALISM... maybe even COMMUNISM.. like China.. or Russia.. Since THEY don’t know Russia and China ARE NOT communists ANYMORE they have converted to Fascism.. Which is actually the same thing different clothing..
BUT THEY DON’T, they Don’t WHY?.. TRUMP has made them STUPID.. or dyslexic..
TRUMP has SOCIALIST ten foot pole marks all over him...
MY OPINON: The ONLY way America can be FIXED is by RESTORING the US Constitution.. Which is Ted Cruz’s ballywick.. REDUCING federal givernment to Constitutional LIMITS... GUTTING it in stages..
Ted Cruz is ALL ABOUT the Constitution Donald TRUMP IS NOT.. Neither is Obama..
The US Constitutions ONLY purpose and reason for being IS TO LIMIT the Federal Government..
So that the federal gov’t DOES NOT GO ROGUE.. like NOW..
WHY liberals, democrats aka progressives DESPISE IT..
UNLESS they can spin it to bring in Socialism or Fascism (same thing)..
Both of Which MOST people(even freepers) have no idea about.. they don’t even know socialism and fascism AND EVEN communism is the same exact thing..
TRUMP is a RINO leaning toward WHERE?.. socialism, fascism or a new design brand of Monarchy.?... I don’t want to find out..
TRUMP should not get anywhere near the presidency maybe the on the Cabinet where he can be watched.. and PROSECUTED by a new Justice Department.. IF shows any socialist treasonous characteristics...
*** This was gleaned from a screaming eye rolling foot stomping pissed off session after.. listeing to Trump selling his Trumpahol.. to poor gullible Conservative INDIANS.. YOU KNOW... Native Americans..
I only use internet for viewing ... cable has been off my grid for years now.
Trump wants to put a leash on a ROGUE(monster) federal givernment and take it out so it can do it’s business..
Cruz just wants to SHOOT IT.. and get a new dog..
Actually have found foreign news does a better job of reporting then here in the states. It's so 'controlled' now it reminds me of Russian news! I agree with you about MSMBC.....they left the planet a long time ago..ha! CNN has been trying to pick itself back up from lousy ratings...but they still have a long way to go imo.
Cable is disappearing everywhere. It’s on its way out, replaced by streaming services.
I’m pretty sure OAN is making the transition from cable to streaming.
The reason I point out OAN is they seem pretty good with sticking to conservative viewpoints. I don’t need to see any more leftist viewpoints. There’s no logic or merit to their positions, policies or ideas other than to trash the right incessantly.
I tust Bernie Sanders. I just don’t like what he says he will do. However i believe he is being honest about it.
Although it’s advantageous to hear conservative reporting...I do want to know what the left is saying and so view other networks.... as well as overseas.
It’s not about hearing leftist positions as much as recognizing their plans and how they’re working it....”Know your enemy” thing.
I agree but there are plenty of sources for leftist viewpoints. I see plenty of the enemy right here everyday on FR. But if I want to relax and watch video of some deeper conservative reporting I will turn to something like OAN. But I also don’t have cable in my home so I have to resort to prerecorded videos.
The problem with Fox and its Fair and Balanced model is that the left constantly spews out illogic, lies, half-truths, out of context gotcha anecdotes, and on and on to the point that it makes no sense to argue with them, they will never change their viewpoint. There’s no point in debating them. It’s a waste of time. Even if a conservative champion succeeds in getting out worthy debate points it’s not satisfying because the left doesn’t care.
Case in point, the Abortion videos are devastating to pro-choice leftists. Yet they will say the videos are fake, they are fraudulent, edited and will file for courts to stop their release. And the leftists news networks ignore the videos altogether.
It makes no sense to watch them, one can predict what they will do. I will read them or actually scan them because 90% of what they say and write is predictable to me. They bore me and I can see through them so easily.
I have read two of his books. One published in 2000 and one published in 2011.
I guarantee he will not cut Social Security or anything to do with Veterans.
He talks a great deal about the government keeping promises it has made.
The following is from Chapter 5 of "Time to Get Tough":
Save Social Security and Medicaid
"Now I know there are some Republicans who would be just fine with allowing these programs to wither and die on the vine. The way they see it, Social Security and Medicare are wasteful “entitlement programs.” But people who think this way need to rethink their position. It’s not unreasonable for people who paid into a system for decades to expect to get their money’s worth—that’s not an “entitlement,” that’s honoring a deal.
We as a society must also make an ironclad commitment to providing a safety net for those who can’t make one for themselves. At least that was President Reagan’s stance.
On April 20, 1983, Reagan signed a bill to preserve Social Security. At that bill signing, the president said words every Republican should heed:
This bill demonstrates for all time our nation’s ironclad commitment to Social Security. It assures the elderly that America will always keep the promises made in troubled times a half a century ago. It assures those who are still working that they, too, have a pact with the future. From this day forward, they have one pledge that they will get their fair share of benefits when they retire.
President Reagan had it right: Social Security is here to stay. To be sure, we must reform it, root out the fraud, make it more efficient, and ensure that the program is solvent beyond the Baby Boomers. But to listen to some Republicans vilify a system that’s been around for over seventy-six years and that taxpayers have paid into for decades makes me think they should go back and watch President Reagan’s speech again."
Trump, Donald J. (2011-12-06). Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again (p. 69). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.
It wasn’t Christie’s brash style that turned people off.
It was the Obama hug.
Correction... You have no idea what he would do because you haven't taken the time or made the effort to learn anything about him.
How do you know for a FACT that he hasn't become a Conservative who actually will be better for this Country than any of the others?
From what I've seen and heard, he's actually saying in PUBLIC what alot of us are saying around our dinner tables?
Post the proof you have, or let it go.
People want to believe what they are hearing, Trump cannot be any worse than what we've got.
That’s all true.
What makes you think he's not, his campaign rhetoric? Did you also believe Mitt Romney had changed? If not, why do you believe liberal Donald Trump?
How do you know for a FACT that he hasn't become a Conservative who actually will be better for this Country than any of the others?
When have I say I knew anything "for a fact"? I said I did not trust the man and I don't. I don't trust him because his past says he is a liberal.
From what I've seen and heard, he's actually saying in PUBLIC what alot of us are saying around our dinner tables?
And you are free to buy into his campaign rhetoric if you so choose. I'm not that shallow, I look at a candidate's past and consider it also.
People want to believe what they are hearing, Trump cannot be any worse than what we've got.
I'd like to shoot for something far better than just doing better than we've got. I'd like a conservative, not someone with a long liberal past who says what conservatives want to hear during an election cycle. Mitt Romney did the same. Did you fall for his ruse also?
Post the proof you have, or let it go.
Let go defending conservatism in this conservative forum? No, I don't think I will. I certainly won't do it because you told me to. As for proof, while this is enough for me I know the average Trumpbot won't agree. But I don't really give a damn.
1. Trump has been a liberal most of his adult life, registering as a Republican as recently as 2009.
2. Trump has contributed generously to some of the most far left democrats in politics including Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Terry McAuliffe (D-VA) Anthony Weiner (D-NY), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Harry Reid (D-NV), Governor Ed Rendell (D-PA), California state attorney general Kamala Harris (D-CA), Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
3. Trump is a crony capitalist, explaining his large contributions to democrats as a necessary tool to conducting business. He apparently believes buying the votes of politicians is an acceptable way of doing business. That, by definition is political corruption. But liberal Donald Trump supports it.
4. Trump supported the ban on "assault weapons", even though there is no such thing as an "assault weapon". Far left anti-gun democrats wanted to ban gun ownership completely. Unable to accomplish that goal they created the term "assault weapon" and applied their own definition for the term so they could ban guns based solely on cosmetic appearances. Being the gullible liberal that he is, Trump both fell for the scheme and supported the ban.
5. As recently as 2013 Trump praised former NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg for "Putting his money where his mouth is" in trying to take guns from law-abiding citizens. Michael Bloomberg has spent tens of millions in his quest to disarm America and Donald Trump praised him for it.
6. Trump has been pro-abortion until which time he flirted with running for president. He now claims he no longer is. Believe his campaign rhetoric if you will, but his history says otherwise.
7. While he may claim to be an opponent of Obamacare, Trump is an advocate of single-payer socialized healthcare similar to what is in place in Canada. Yes, Trump supports the worst version of socialized healthcare. He has said, "The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing. While we work out details of a new single-payer plan, there are a number of ways to make the health care system now in place work more efficiently."
8. Trump believes in using eminent domain for the taking of private property from US citizens for his personal gain. He proved this when he tried exploiting such laws to take elderly widow Vera Coking's property so he could build a parking lot for limousines. Fortunately, the widow prevailed. He also said he supported the United States Supreme Court's Kelo decision which resulted in the taking of private land from a private party so Pfizer Pharmaceuticals could build a plant. That family lost their land and to date nothing has been built on it. It should be noted that conservatives Rehnquist, Thomas and Scalia all voted against this rotten scheme. Liberals on the court supported it, as did liberal Donald Trump.
9. Trump has said the economy does better under democrat control (we're $18 trillion in debt and climbing thanks to the dems). He also said George W. Bush was the worst president this country has ever had. Worse than the lying rapist Bill Clinton? In the mind of Donald Trump, that answer is YES because he has also said of the past four presidents, Bill Clinton was his favorite.
10. As of 2009, Donald Trump is a registered Republican. But in an interview with CNN's Wolfe Blitzer, Trump said, "I probably identify more as a democrat." His record above lends credence to that comment. You are supporting and putting your trust in a liberal.
Summed up, while Donald Trump may be saying and doing things that appeal to conservatives, he is a lifelong liberal who only now claims to be conservative. That considered, he is just like any other liberal in that he cannot be trusted.
Fair ‘nuff.
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