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(Vanity) How do we solve a problem like the Donald?
Free Republic original content ^ | 08-25-2015 | grey_whiskers

Posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:54 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

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To: grey_whiskers
Donald Trump. He arouses wild excitement, and withering contempt;

Very similar observations were made in 1980 about a Republican candidate for President.

101 posted on 08/26/2015 5:27:13 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: grey_whiskers

For those inclined to brevity...

There are two problems. His sincerity and his ability.
Many are questioning his sincerity, and they have substantial reasons. But beyond that, there’s reasonable doubt as to his ability. Political, not business ability. He has never held political office so there’s no experience to judge.

Where these two converge is the field of his political choices. And that is cause for concern.

Still, if he’s the nominee I’ll vote for him. More than I can ever say of Jeb Bush!


102 posted on 08/26/2015 5:49:20 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

“I think Ted Cruz is the best candidate but Trump has the best chance of getting elected.”

Cruz is clearly the best candidate but Trump doesn’t stand a chance of being elected.

Just look at what happened to the love affair everyone had with Chris Christi and his brash get in their face style.

Didn’t take long for people to get sick of it and take a look what was behind the talker.

The only thing behind the big talker was a big ass.

Notice how silent Hillary is. It’s because people quickly get tired of the sound of her voice.

Same is going to happen with Trump.

After 8 years of listening to childish crap out of Obama people aren’t going to want to listed to childish crap out of the next president for another 4-8 years.


103 posted on 08/26/2015 6:26:25 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
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"Donald Trump ... You MAGNIFICENT BASTARD !" ...


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104 posted on 08/26/2015 6:55:01 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: firebrand; grey_whiskers

The places where Cruz spoke in those terms was back in 2013 when he was offering an amendment to the Gang of 8 bill. Got any thing recent that verifies he still wants to do that because I am not seeing it


105 posted on 08/26/2015 7:16:30 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No candidate will ever please me completely. Reagan came the closest, and I worked for him both in and out of office. Cruz is 80+ % for me, and I can live with that.If it weren’t for his visa crap, he would be close to 100%. Trump is not a conservative. He is a pragmatic businessman. We have no clue what he would do as POTUS. Sorry folks. Bubble burst time is here.


106 posted on 08/26/2015 8:59:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Modern ‘conservatism”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SRZ5400UKSc#t=57


107 posted on 08/26/2015 9:43:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nifster

Most of this was from a recent speech. The fast track vote was last spring, whenever that vote was.

Trump has zeroed in on the one big issue that gets America’s goat. He has done it dramatically and with excellent advice.

I can’t vote in the primary but I am still watching the show. A lot is being revealed here.


108 posted on 08/26/2015 10:59:39 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: grey_whiskers; marron; Alamo-Girl; xzins; hosepipe; YHAOS; caww; Tritium
The "hates womyn" card: Megyn Kelly

What a total canard! The Donald does not hate women. The Donald pays them the ultimate tribute of regarding them as equal to men. Especially if they are attacking him. Then, the gender issue just melts away altogether: An enemy is an enemy, regardless of their sex.

Megyn Kelly should have known better than to try to lay a "gotcha" trap on Donald Trump. Obviously, she didn't. She placed her bets, in the very first debate question, on being able to achieve one of two outcomes: (1) isolating Trump as the only candidate who would state his support of the eventual GOP nominee was not guaranteed (implying he would consider mounting a third-party effort "if he were not treated well" by the GOP); or (2), putting The Donald into the position of limiting his future options to statements made today, which are binding on him. A hard-core negotiator like Donald Trump does not want to give away his negotiating leverage in the future, just to give Megyn Kelly a "big score" — and make himself look like a fool in the process.

And in this process, Megan Kelly broke the first rule that they try to drill into you at journalism school: Do not ever, ever, ever allow yourself to become "the story." But then, Ms. Kelly is not the product of j-school, but of law school (where I imagine she was a brilliant student).

Anyhoot, Ms. Kelly seriously miscalculated and underestimated the man. I gather she may have felt that some kind of "female privilege" would be her best defense, if things went wrong.

That didn't happen. She was criticized for her behavior. And then — mirabile dictu!!! — comes Roger Ailes, charging in on his big white steed, like the second coming of Sir Galahad, to rescue the "damosel in distress." And takes further opportunity to remind us that Fox News is ever "fair and balanced."

Sure. And that explains how Fox News increasing appears to be an unofficial mouthpiece of the RNC?

I almost choked from laughter at these claims.

If I were Megan Kelly, I'd be absolutely humiliated by this intervention. She wants to play with the big boys. But she can't prevent some big boy from barging in to rescue her when she falters? And yet IMHO, to accept such "help" is to prove one's self a wimp; or worse, a helpless, hapless female....

Ambitious woman really can't ask, or expect, to have it "both ways."

Or so it seems to me, FWIW.

Thank you ever so much, dear grey_whiskers, for your outstanding essay. Your summary of the Obama Administration's achievements is totally spot-on, and amazingly comprehensive. Thank you so very much for writing, and for pinging me to your article.

109 posted on 08/26/2015 11:38:25 AM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind.)
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To: betty boop
And in this process, Megan Kelly broke the first rule that they try to drill into you at journalism school: Do not ever, ever, ever allow yourself to become "the story."

Do they really teach that in journalism school?

Jorge Ramos must have been absent that day.

A television journalist participating in a debate is necessarily part of the story.

If Megyn Kelly turned out to be a big part of the story, that has more to do with Donald Trump's response than with her question.

110 posted on 08/26/2015 11:43:46 AM PDT by x
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To: x
Do they really teach that in journalism school?

Old Journalism School: The Story is: "Who, What, When, Where, and Why."

New Journalism School: The Story is: "Who, What, When, Where, and Why Not Me?"

111 posted on 08/26/2015 11:53:31 AM PDT by GoneSalt (*NOOB*~What separates winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate~TRUMP)
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To: x; Alamo-Girl; marron; xzins; hosepipe; YHAOS; caww; trisham; Hostage
If Megyn Kelly turned out to be a big part of the story, that has more to do with Donald Trump's response than with her question.

How so???

An excellently-trained legal mind anticipated that she would "get" Trump, one way or the other, with her opening question. That is, she had an end in view from the first. (How does that comport with "fair and balanced" reporting?)

Even I could see in advance what his response would likely be to such a question. And I'm no lawyer.

I'd say that makes her a BIG part of this "story."

Jorge Ramos is not even a journalist. He is a proselytizer of the Reconquista school. In the referenced debate, Ramos simply barged in, using the usual thug tactics, after another journalist had already been called. Trump politely asked Ramos to get into line, for there was another journalist before him. Ramos did not take the hint, but continued to barrage Trump with questions, even after the other, recognized journalist began his question. Trump tried to tell him to calm down, wait for his turn. But Ramos would not relent.

So Trump had Ramos removed. For a time. Later, he brought him back in, to tell his "two-cent's-worth."

This scenario tends to show me that Trump is "tough," but "fair."

So, what's your problem with him, x???

112 posted on 08/26/2015 1:01:45 PM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind.)
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To: betty boop

....” In the referenced debate, Ramos simply barged in, using the usual thug tactics, after another journalist had already been called. Trump politely asked Ramos to get into line, for there was another journalist before him. Ramos did not take the hint, but continued to barrage Trump with questions, even after the other, recognized journalist began his question. Trump tried to tell him to calm down, wait for his turn. But Ramos would not relent”....

And he continued to do so even after Trump invited him back in...

Now Ramos and Kelly will further make the story about them on Fox tonight. This junk may very well cause me to stop viewing Fox at all....


113 posted on 08/26/2015 1:06:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m starting to see Trump as the revenge of the mushy middle. As a guy who’s switched parties 5 times you really can’t say Trump is a member of either side, sure he’s a Republican NOW but give it a few years. Meanwhile we know the mushy middle are the people that really decide elections. The mushy middle’s primary political belief is “the guys in charge suck”, these are the folks who ebb and flow between sides and cause the party of the sitting president to lose seats in mid-terms and make it so sitting VPs don’t become Ps. Well with the Rs solidly controlling Congress and a D in the White House who’s “in charge”? Both of them really, and if you look at approval numbers you can see the mushy middle is quite convinced they both suck. And in comes mister party flipper, a guy who has praised and insulted every sitting president since he became famous, who is clearly not part of those that are “in charge”. So they love him. Forget the fact that he demonstrably has no actual core beliefs, that’s he a serial liar, and often just plain doesn’t make sense. He demagogues really well, and he’s not in charge, so he doesn’t suck.


114 posted on 08/26/2015 1:14:37 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: grey_whiskers
Oh dear grey_whiskers, I meant to ping you to this, but neglected to do so at this time. FYI.
115 posted on 08/26/2015 1:15:12 PM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind.)
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To: caww
This junk may very well cause me to stop viewing Fox at all....

LOL!!! Well, I wouldn't go that far. Though they have been appearing rather stinky of late, in terms of failing to deliver on their much-touted "fair-and-balanced" news position, they are the "least bad" of the crowd.

I also turn on CNN and MSNBC from time to time, just to see what those idiots are saying. CNN comes across as somewhat respectable; as for MSNBC, I don't even know what planet they are living on....

The problem for me is, in the past, I have overwhelmingly relied on Fox News for "fair and balanced" reportage.

Given recent events, I suspect my faith in Fox may have been misplaced.

But you still have to watch them — Fox, CNN, MSNBC — just to find out what they're doing. If they are carrying water for the Enemy, then we need to monitor the details.

Still, I'm not terribly worried about any of this. :^)

116 posted on 08/26/2015 1:27:11 PM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind.)
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To: betty boop

Well said, betty boop!


117 posted on 08/26/2015 1:29:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: betty boop; caww

Dear betty,

Have a look at OAN.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3329211/posts?page=212#212

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3329211/posts?page=219#219


118 posted on 08/26/2015 1:38:22 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: South40

Trump—>> Fool we’re talking about Fools.... and it starts with F and ends in an L.. we got trouble in River City.. right HERE..

The boy is doing Robert Preston and Buddy Hacket to a tee... brilliant rendition as a republican Music man, con man..
very nice act... The democrats must be getting a charge out this.... republicans are totally FooLed..

Anyone thats been watching knows the next President will be elected by VOTER FRAUD.....
you know like the last “ FEW”.. except voter fraud on an enormous scale.. like last time..
ONLY BIGGER..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI


119 posted on 08/26/2015 2:05:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Whosoever
Donald Trump may ...DO.. and able to ..DO.. what he suggests..

Bring America back to former financial glory..
AND make america's Socialist Givernment WORK...

THUS preparing his way to be Anti-Christ in WAITING..

If he does all that (that he brags) America in both partys WILL ENSHRINE HIM..
Follow him to HELL and BACK,,,

AND make ... Reagan merely an ancient historical figure....

AND Trump a wonder to the WORLD... amazing and lauded if not actually WORSHIPED..
Setting him up to " solve " other of the World's so -called problems..
----------------------------------------------

WOULD MAKE A KILLER NOVEL, MOVIE, or Documentary..
even IF what I propose is NOT actual.. i.e. I'm only partially kidding..

120 posted on 08/26/2015 2:28:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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