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To: Finny

I saw esteves (?) original post the other day on this thread.

He was presenting as fact that anyone riding a motorcycle, and wearing a patch was automatically a criminal.
Much like the rest of the police apologists that haunt these threads.
After run-ins with another (whose name I WONT mention because I don’t want to call them from the netherworld), I seldom respond to these people.

It’s too much like debating a cinder block. Thick and hollow inside.


77 posted on 08/16/2015 7:50:35 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: rikkir

rikkir said:

I saw esteves (?) original post the other day on this thread.

He was presenting as fact that anyone riding a motorcycle, and wearing a patch was automatically a criminal.
*****

Then, you are having hallucinations.


81 posted on 08/17/2015 6:27:01 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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rikkir said:

He was presenting as fact that anyone riding a motorcycle, and wearing a patch was automatically a criminal.
****

Despite your lack of visual comprehension, there’s something you better understand here. Let’s start with this, and I’ll only include the relevant parts:


Texas Penal Code, Title 11, Ch.71. ORGANIZED CRIME

Sec. 71.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter,
(a) “Combination” means three or more persons who collaborate in carrying on criminal activities, although:
(1) participants may not know each other’s identity;
(2) membership in the combination may change from time to time;

(d) “Criminal street gang” means three or more persons having a common identifying sign or symbol or an identifiable leadership who continuously or regularly associate in the commission of criminal activities.

Sec. 71.02. ENGAGING IN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
(a) A person commits an offense if, with the intent to establish, maintain, or participate in a combination or in the profits of a combination or as a member of a criminal street gang, the person commits or conspires to commit one or more of the following:
(1) murder, capital murder, arson, aggravated robbery, robbery, burglary, theft, aggravated kidnapping, kidnapping, aggravated assault, aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault, continuous sexual abuse of young child or children, solicitation of a minor, forgery, deadly conduct, assault punishable as a Class A misdemeanor, burglary of a motor vehicle, or unauthorized use of a motor vehicle;

(16) any offense under Section 46.06(a)(1) or 46.14; [this relates to illegal possession, use, or transport of a firearm]


Now, basically what this means is that since certain members of the aforementioned motorcycle groups have not been “squeaky clean” under the law, they qualify as “criminal street gangs” under Texas Penal Code. And, being a member of one of these groups gets you an automatic anal exam by law enforcement anytime they encounter you. And, playing dumb regarding your actions, or your membership in one of these groups, will not exclude you from this label. This means that anytime law enforcement has to deal with a collection of members of one of these groups, they are not going to take the time (or the personal risk) to try and figure out which one of you broke the law and which ones didn’t. So, my advice to you would be to forget the “Bandido, etc.” memberships, associations, bottom rocker patches, or anything else that associates you with one of these groups, and just go ride your motorcycle if that’s what you really want to do. However, if it boosts your testosterone level to run around trying to be one of these biker gang wannabe’s, the law will be glad to show you what it REALLY means to be a member.


82 posted on 08/17/2015 7:15:10 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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