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It's Time for Conservatives to Reject Donald Trump
The Federalist ^ | 07-29-2015 | Patrick Hedger

Posted on 08/02/2015 5:52:26 AM PDT by parksstp

This has gone on long enough. All that anyone can talk about right now is how Republican voters are itching for someone to “stand and fight,” “speak his mind,” and “tell it like it is.” All right then, here goes.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, and it’s beyond time every Republican knows it. This MSNBC caricature of the GOP incarnate is getting heaps of praise from frustrated conservative base voters and unfortunately too much airtime from conservative political pundits because he evidently “tells it like it is.”

Except that he doesn’t.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016; donaldtrump; polls; trump; trump2016; trumpforpresident
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To: nikos1121

All those worthless Ad Council ads that are played on RUsh and Hannity and that hapless dope Glenn Beck, I bet they cost the taxpayers millions.


No fan of smarmy Ad Council ads. But they claim that “Yes, we are a nonprofit. And like any other nonprofit, we raise funds from individuals, corporations and foundations to support our general operations.” Anyhow, sponsors are skittish about those shows (especially Rush, since Fluke-gate a few years back) so they have to fill ad space with something, so people don’t think there’s a problem with their car radio.


101 posted on 08/02/2015 7:26:04 AM PDT by Bluewater2015 (There are no coincidences)
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To: Amntn
The following is my outline of Trump's book:

Not a single solution in almost all of those paragraphs. Yet people think he's a problem solver. Go figure.

102 posted on 08/02/2015 7:29:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Gaffer

“I am totally for Cruz”

I am totally for Cruz, too. He’s an amazing man. And even he sees the Don is advancing the line of scrimmage in a manner he never could.

The Bedouin have a saying, that “the man who brings victory in battle is esteemed above all others”.


103 posted on 08/02/2015 7:30:16 AM PDT by GoneSalt
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To: parksstp; All

I agree with this article 100 percent. I’m starting a movement today to draft the GOP Ticket of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. That’s two guys we can trust because they have a track record of taking the fight to the Libs and standing true to all of their promises. Come on FReepers; dump Trump, dump Cruz; let’s get two of America’s finest in there. Hell yeah! I want to say “Thank You” to The Federalist publication for waking me up.

Do I really need it? O.K...... (/s)


104 posted on 08/02/2015 7:31:04 AM PDT by Din Maker (Either Carly Fiorina or GOP Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for VP)
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To: b4its2late
I think Trump would be a great VP.

Trump doesn't play second fiddle to anyone and you couldn't trust him to follow the administration's message when he disagrees with it.

105 posted on 08/02/2015 7:31:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Yardstick

He did well with the Code Pink lady. But remember, that was a reaction. He needs to bottle that, fuel it with “attack mode” and the ramp it up to the big vista. I think he’s still four years away.


106 posted on 08/02/2015 7:31:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Wilderness Conservative

” It’s time for the establishment and the Liberals to wake up “
Trump maybe the last chance to turn our nation around in a peaceful way. I am in the outlands of the South and people are getting ready to not play nice with others. A house divided against its self will not stand.


107 posted on 08/02/2015 7:32:18 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: WHBates
Obama is anything but small ball. He rolls out a giant ball every week. Even if he ends up getting "small ball," he starts big. Iran, global warming, Obamacare, he shoots for the moon every time, and usually we give it to him.

And I pay attention. I haven't heard Walker yet get to that "vision thing."

108 posted on 08/02/2015 7:34:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: FR_addict
Even thought I don't agree with a lot of Carson's positions, the man has been an undeniable success in his field. Outside of law, who in the GOP field has been a success at anything other than getting votes?

I understand the need for some career pols. I really do. But we have far too many of them. I'd even support a constitutional term limits amendment if it limited people to total years of elected AND appointed local, state, and federal offices. I am sick of people who do nothing but tell the rest of us what to do then never have to live by their own laws.

109 posted on 08/02/2015 7:35:53 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Mercat
Actually, I do trust him to be Trump. And you read his books, while they aren't 100% conservative, they are substantially conservative and I do think he'd do what he said and, more important, COULD do what he said. I don't know if any of the others can.

For example, short of an electoral landslide, I don't think Cruz could either bargain or strongarm coalitions to force through his programs. Trump could.

110 posted on 08/02/2015 7:37:32 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: rlmorel

I don’t think he’ll change anything for what people want to hear. He wouldn’t have lost all that business and taken all those shots. I would very much bet that you won’t have one or the other (Jeb or Hillary) in the race, and would almost bet you won’t have either.


111 posted on 08/02/2015 7:39:00 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: parksstp

Trump requires freedom to operate and succeed in his domain. All...ALL the others REQUIRE GOVERNMENT, OFFICES,and TAX REVENUE to cut a living.
I’ll vote Trump. We need the same oxygen. I like Cruz, et al; but ineffective against the entrenched army in washington. Not their time, yet.


112 posted on 08/02/2015 7:41:55 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: parksstp

Sorry people are going to vote for Trump because they are tired of the same lying politicians we have been voting for that don’t deliver.

Do I agree with everything about Trump, no, but I will not vote or support any of these RINO’s running either.

If the nominee is Bush you can count on me and a lot of others staying home.


113 posted on 08/02/2015 7:43:03 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: parksstp

Just because conservatives shouldn’t vote for Trump is no reason for us to not support him for the time being. Here are the reasons:

1) The primary elections are still a long way off, and a lot of candidates need to be culled before then. Some will just not have any staying power or support. Some will try to keep their heads down and not say anything, so they might win through attrition. Trump, however, is calling them out.

He is forcing those who would have failed anyway to fail faster. He is forcing the quiet ones to speak their minds, which results in their drawing fire. And importantly, he does threaten the big money candidates, whose corporate overlords are prone to panic, and will force their candidates to doubly swear their fealty, in public, which will hurt them a lot.

2) He is driving both the Democrat and Republican leadership quite bonkers, because he makes their anointed but lackluster, gray candidates look even duller and more hopeless. Trump on the same stage with Hillary and Jeb make the two of them look like ushers.

This will likely encourage them to spend more of their money to make their puppets look like human beings, money they can’t use to attack conservative candidates.

3) The zinger is that real conservative candidates have character, get grassroots support, and are pretty impervious to attacks by Trump, since his criticisms of them will be that they are conservatives.

So the bottom line to all of this is that Trump is doing a LOT of good right now, so if we abandon him we will lose a powerful and effective resource. It doesn’t mean he has a chance to win the primary, but if something isn’t broken, don’t fix it.


114 posted on 08/02/2015 7:44:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: parksstp
Yay for you - I'm backing and donating to Cruz but would have no problem voting for Trump if he is the last man standing. Just as Romney, bad and wishy-washy as he is, would have been head and shoulders better than a second term of Obama, Trump brings much more to the table that would help foster conservatism and the rule of law than anyone on the other side.

Unlike Romney, who wold have shrugged and said nice things about the Left as it kept up its BS, Trump would be on the tube listing all their treacheries.

Cruz is the prime hope, but I won't bare my belly to the Left and beg them to finish the evisceration if Trump is the last one standing.

115 posted on 08/02/2015 7:47:40 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: parksstp

Didn’t America just elect a fresh faced ,articulate unknown ,who said what a lot of them wanted to hear ? Hows that working for you?

Its all just words no matter what they say and although Trump has been a success at being Donald Trump and getting paid for it...solving political problems is another thing entirely.


117 posted on 08/02/2015 7:51:02 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Auslander154

I have yet to hear Trump put two sentences together that explain the how or why of anything he will do.

Are you ABLE to think things through? Trump DOESN’T have to explain. It’s EARLY and He has executed his own personal success, that tells me he knows SOMETHING that the rest of the Career Politicians Don’t! All they have done (except a handful of Patriots) is blow smoke up our ass!


118 posted on 08/02/2015 7:51:17 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I am too...S Florida. No one I know likes either one of them. I think...as do others that Bush needs to be dumped quickly and then let the others fight it out. Cruz, Walker and the others can keep up a good fight AFTER Florida’s primary. We, as you know, are a closed and winner take all primary state.
We have months to go and aa lot can happen. Lets see how it all shakes out.


119 posted on 08/02/2015 7:53:40 AM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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To: chicagolady

Um, I don’t the GOPe puposely threw you under the bus.

Let’s get real here.

You beat out 5 other guys in a Special Election where the total vote was like 3,700 GOP Voters, and the difference between 1st-5th was around 700 votes. There was almost 12X as many voters in the Dem Primary. What were you really expecting?

Cook Partisan for IL-5 (Rahm Dead Fish and Blago’s old District) is D+18

Realistically your chances of winning there were about the same as a Republican getting elected mayor in DC.

If there is ever able to be true conservatism change in this country, it’s not going to come from Donald Trump. Sure, you might think a good number of voters in IL-5 buy that “tough” talk, but if it isn’t real, full-spectrum conservatism on display as the main course in an articulate and effective manner that gets voters to actually change their minds and understand the arguments at hand, then there’s no points, because these people will get duped into whatever next celebrity comes along. Hey look, here comes George Clooney!

Meanwhile, Cruz has actually done the hard work and gone into the heart of places like the Code Pinkies and taken them on. You watch the debate and Cruz’s mannerisms and exchanges with them. It’s clear that there were Code Pinkies that day that probably walked away from there questioning their own liberal beliefs And you know why? Because Cruz planted the seeds. No One has done or tried this since Reagan because no one has been gifted enough to communicate conservatism in the way necessary to educate the low-information voter. Cruz has done that, and he continues to do it by by-passing the MSM when necessary. This is what makes him truly stand out.

Trump is a fraud. The only thing Trump cares about is Trump. Buried beneath his statements is very clear that he covets the GOPe power-structure. Not that he wants to give that back to the people, Trump just wants to replace it with himself. People are like “Trump cant be bought” and “Trump answers to know one”. Well, just remember that when Trump goes off on what Trump wants to do and it clashes with the conservatives and Tea Party.


120 posted on 08/02/2015 8:00:29 AM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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