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To: rikkir
Who did fire the shots? If it was bikers you don’t think they would be hiding the autopsy reports do you? Really? I guess the Feds must be glad to know there are people who will bow down to what ever story they and the media cook up.

Very sad to say that I know fellow conservatives who in their hearts, believe the narrative. They've internalized it and consider alternatives to be tin-foil. It's a sledgehammer alternative in any case -- a very hard truth to accept about America's new rules. Hard as a rock. Truth is like that, and people avoid it sometimes.

They see it with the reassuring narrative and know themselves that really bad biker human trafficking extorting kidnapping thieving meth-peddling slime criminals do in reality exist (they do, in tiny numbers comparatively).

Besides, the idea that the rules of play have become so perverted as to allow more than 150 law-abiding people of no criminal record have lives broken and a felony arrest on record -- that such a crazy thing could happen with America watching -- well, that's just crazy. A lot of conservatives think the narrative isn't crazy, so it must be the other.

I'm afraid Waco was a pretty good success. At least they didn't provoke the folks arrested into rioting in the "secure facilities." Thank God they kept cool heads.

So from my POV, it was a new-age 4th of July, yesterday, whether folks realize it or not, the gauntlet's down. Driving across cityscape right at the fireworks hour last night, I saw more blasts of sparkling confetti fireworks than I've seen in many long years. It was almost eery.

21 posted on 07/05/2015 2:21:54 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

bad biker human trafficking extorting kidnapping thieving meth-peddling slime criminals do in reality exist (they do, in tiny numbers comparatively).

That’s exactly right. Even the ones who do participate in criminal activity, not all members do, and very seldom do they interact with the general public.

I grew up (back fences touched) behind a guy who would become East Coast Chapters President of Hell’s Angels. Never, not once, did I ever have a seconds trouble from him or any of his brothers. As a matter of fact they kind of pseudo adopted me (I was a fat kid), and toughened me up. Taught me how to stand up for my self.

So needless to say I see bikers in a different light than the media idea of them.

I also understand what the 1%er patch means, and I ain’t gonna mess with em either.

Thing is I don’t doubt they were fighting. If you want a fight with a guy wearing colors, he’ll give you the best you ever had. I believe the cops either overreacted and responded with weapon fire, when tear gas would have done, or they were ordered to do permanent damage because they were becoming too big, or too powerful.

The reaction afterward was total CYA.


24 posted on 07/05/2015 2:45:52 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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