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1 posted on 06/21/2015 6:09:42 PM PDT by GraceG
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I know the Red Tailed, Red Shouldered, Pigeon, and Sharp Shinned Hawks, but the immature hawks are always hard!

Googling an Immature Red Tail showed a young hawk with a bare upper-mid section as in your photo. So I’m kinda leaning that way.

I do hope you submit your pics and get an expert opinion.

Are you able to get a shot of the mother? That would answer everything!

Thanks for a post on other than the rotten news going on now!! I really mean that!!


66 posted on 06/21/2015 7:27:29 PM PDT by Exit148 ((Loose Change Club founder) Put yours aside for the next Freepathon!)
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Looks like an immature redtail. Mottled back, wings too short to be a falcon, no facial pattern as a falcon would have, gap in the pattern of markings on its underside. Chunky yellow feet.


67 posted on 06/21/2015 7:29:56 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Yes, they will eat squirrels, they are very good at killing squirrels and if they are bountiful in your neighborhood that’s probably why they nested there. They will also eat young ducks and young chickens, though usually not the adults unless squirrels and rodents get scarce.


69 posted on 06/21/2015 7:35:01 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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One other thing:
70 posted on 06/21/2015 7:39:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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way too small for a red tailed hawk. we have lots of them and they nest in our tall trees.


75 posted on 06/21/2015 8:04:43 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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I would guess this is one of the immature birds. Immature can be tough to identify. I would look up coopers or sharp shinned hawk at allaboutbirds.com


76 posted on 06/21/2015 8:11:56 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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Likely one of the state of the art NSA drones designed to look like a hawk.
Change all of your passwords immediately.
You must have done something to draw their attention.


77 posted on 06/21/2015 8:22:46 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.


78 posted on 06/21/2015 8:31:54 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-winged_Hawk/id


79 posted on 06/21/2015 8:36:06 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-winged_Hawk/id


80 posted on 06/21/2015 8:36:33 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.
www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-winged_Hawk/id


81 posted on 06/21/2015 8:37:06 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.
www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Broad-winged_Hawk/id


82 posted on 06/21/2015 8:37:21 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.


84 posted on 06/21/2015 8:38:39 PM PDT by GSAonce
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Peterson Field Guide description of a Immature Broad Winged Hawk. “Heavily streaked along sides of neck, breast, and belly: chest often unmarked. Tail has several narrow dark bands: terminal dark band twice as wide as the rest. Rare dark morph, which breeds in Prairie Province, has dark wing lining but shows usual Broad-winged tail pattern.”

You did not indicate where you live in the country which is used to identify birds. I do not believe it is a red tailed hawk. I have seen many and bird watch as a hobby.
Voice: High-pitched, shrill, two-part downward pwe-eeeeee. Nest in trees usually 24-40 feet up. Small poorly built out of sticks, dead leaves. Usually a re-build squirrel, hawk or crow nest.
Range N. Dakota (Turtle Mts.) Nebraska (Missouri R.) Kansas (rare) Oklahoma and east Texas Minnesota and south to Louisiana. Thorough East US rarely in Florida.


85 posted on 06/21/2015 8:41:35 PM PDT by GSAonce
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It looks to be either a red tail or a Cooper’s hawk.


89 posted on 06/21/2015 9:59:27 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: GraceG

Coopers hawk.


90 posted on 06/21/2015 10:00:18 PM PDT by glasseye
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Red-tailed hawks show quite a bit of variability in how they look. Here are a couple that seem fairly typical:

Juvenile Red-tailed Hawk - 245A1889 This photo from Kingsville, Texas showsshows:
- dark patagial markings under the leading edge of the wing (a red-tailed hawk marker)
- dark banding on the leg feathers like your bird
- the top of the tail has narrow dark banding like your bird
- the underside of the tail is basically white like your bird
- white chest and dark markings on the belly like your bird

Here is a photo of a different juvenile red-tailed also from the Kingsville area:
Juvenile Red-tailed Hawk - 1E2A2489
The tail is white underneath and the top has the narrow dark bands of a juvenile red-tailed.

93 posted on 06/21/2015 10:57:36 PM PDT by rustbucket
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Certainly looks like a prairie falcon. Peregrines have a much darker facial mask.


94 posted on 06/21/2015 11:00:34 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: GraceG

red tail hawk....they are actually quite delicious


107 posted on 06/22/2015 4:07:09 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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Prarie Falcon - Link
118 posted on 06/23/2015 1:42:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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