Posted on 06/01/2015 7:23:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro
I think a lot can be read into the complete absence of Aegon/Griff from the show.
If he was the real Aegon there is no way he could of been left out of the show. But if book Aegon/Griff is a pretender, and is later in the books revealed to be a fake and killed... there would be no real point in including him at all in the show (when you are desperately trying to simplify things for TV viewers)
I believe the true main characters of the show to be Jon Snow, Daenerys, and Tyrian who will eventually come together in some way and unite to fight off the white walkers with the aid of the dragons.
Nearly everything else is a distraction.
Agreed. Although I think Bran and his warg/greenseer training has to come into play in a major way, as so much time was devoted to him getting there.
Would love to see Jon’s innate warg ability expanded as well. Perhaps “afterwards” it will be - similar to how Bran’s powers woke up once he did.
I've been thinking the same thing all season.
I think Sansa and/or Arya might have a key role, but it's also entirely possible that Sansa will have a nervous breakdown and Arya will decide that she enjoys a life of quiet anonymity.
Bran will almost certainly have a role in fighting off the white walkers.
Daenerys Targaryen = Fire
A Song of Ice and Fire
Wow! I never thought of that!
Take it a step further and consider what that means. We've been led to believe that the White Walkers are bad/evil but maybe they are simply the opposing side of fire. Their rise comes as fire rises.
Also, no one know who really built the wall, but perhaps the wall wasn't built by men to keep the white walkers from the south, but by the white walkers to keep the men from the north.
Jon Snow may be the joining of both fire and ice, meaning he's a Stark and Targaryan as others have mentioned. How this plays out with Daenarys I can't fathom. It makes more sense to me that he's the opposing force to hers although I can't imagine he would hold any ill will towards her. She opposes the same people that beheaded his father so their interests would seem to align.
I think the only way for this to end is for the dragons, the white walkers and all the rulers to be dead as evidenced by George RR Martin's own words as to how he'd like it to end.
"a cloud of dust or snow being driven by the wind across a vast graveyard full of tombstones. "
I think Sansa will in the end be happily married to Tyrion (her true husband)
Arya probably doesn’t play a major role in the main events of the story, and probably at most uses her new skills to take revenge on some of the meaningless characters that have wronged her.
Bran becomes a tree.. so no role for him to play directly, but could play a part indirectly using some special tree power I guess (who knows)
Rickon will eventually be made the Lord of Winterfell, but again play no crucial role in the main events of the story.
King Robert had other children out of wedlock, but bastard children are not in the line of succession. Accordingly, even though Robert had many bastard children, Stannis was the rightful heir after Robert’s murder. Even so, a true born child of King Robert could have proven problematic to King Joffrey, which is why Joffrey tried to kill off as many of Robert’s bastard children as he could find.
I subscribe to the theory that Lyanna Stark and Crown Prince Rhaegar Targaryen fell in love and ran off together (L + R = Jon). I think it is possible that they might have even gotten married, even though Rhaegar was already married to Princess Elia Martell of Dorne (polygamy was frowned upon, but not unheard of in the Targaryan family).
If so, then Jon would have a better claim to the Iron Throne than Daenerys, who would then be his aunt. However, Jon has arguably taken himself out of the Game of Thrones by becoming a member of the Night’s Watch (similar to what happened with Prince Aemon Targaryen, who first became a maester of the Citadel and later became a sworn brother of the Night’s Watch). However, if Jon succeeds against the White Walkers, maybe this would change.
I think what you just laid out is probably right and where all this is headed.
Jon Snow HAS to be someone VERY special, otherwise nothing in the books or series makes sense.
It's pretty clear that the ONLY people with the ability to actually rule are Daenerys or Jon Snow (it's already been established that his status as a bastard can easily be changed). Jaime has too much baggage to be king and Tyrion is astute enough to realize that a dwarf wouldn't be taken seriously.
The fact that he hasn't been killed any number of times on or north of the Wall when he arguably SHOULD have been (especially last night), indicates that he's very special. After all, unlike other books and TV series, GOT has no qualms about killing off main characters without any hesitation.
A lot of fan theories claim he is a Targareyon, but from the blackfyre line, not the legitimate line.
Note also that Lyanna was dying on a bed of blood at the Tower of Joy while the King’s Guard stood outside. That only makes sense if the true Targaryen heir (Jon) was being born there.
I say Rhaegar married Lyanna in front of a weirwood tree. Bran wiill watch this happen.
[SPOILERS] In the past, the Children of the Forest (the childlike creatures who can throw fireballs on the TV show) worked with men to defeat and drive back the White Walkers/Others. Most of the Children of the Forest have died out, though. I believe that the predecessor(s) of the Three-Eyed Raven helped, too. Not exactly sure what his powers are, but he can see from afar and I think he can communicate, too. It's possible that Bran will be able to see using the trees and communicate with Jon to give warnings and help coordinate attacks/defenses.
Bran's power seems to include being able to see through time. After his training with the Three-Eyed Raven, what if Bran is able to see through time and can see who Jon's real parents are? [/SPOILERS]
quote “GOT has no qualms about killing off main characters without any hesitation”
That’s because none of them were actually main characters. You were just led to believe they were. This has been corrected in the series and is in my opinion why the series is superior to the books where you spend endless time getting to know useless characters that actually have no real impact on the main story line and are eventually killed off causing the reader frustration.
quote “I say Rhaegar married Lyanna in front of a weirwood tree. Bran wiill watch this happen.”
whoa !! nice call.
I think both of your theories are highly likely.
I agree and that's why what you're saying makes perfect sense.
I haven't read the books and I'm not really sure that I have time to. I hadn't seen the series until about a year and a half ago, my brother had the first few seasons on DVD and kept telling me that I should watch them, I was hooked after that.
I think Jon (or possibly Dany) is the Prince That Was Promised - not Stannis, as Melisandre believes.
>>I say Rhaegar married Lyanna in front of a weirwood tree. Bran wiill watch this happen.<<
Boss. I like that!
He did have a dream where he was wielding a flaming red sword...
Not sure about the “born amidst fire and smoke” and where that would come in to play. Unless his birth in the tower in the midst of war chaos would apply in a figurative sense.
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