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BBC's insult to hero pilots: Veterans rage over Dresden coverage that attacks Britain...
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 14 February 2015 | Larisa Brown and Inderdeep Bains

Posted on 02/15/2015 4:34:47 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

The BBC’s coverage of the bombing of Dresden in which Britain was described as ‘worse than the Nazis’ was condemned as disgraceful by RAF veterans and MPs last night.

Despite dedicating more than 32 minutes of airtime to the 70th anniversary of the fire-bombing that killed tens of thousands at the end of the Second World War, there was barely a mention of British airmen who lost their lives.

The BBC’s four major news shows and Radio 4 interviewed multiple German survivors of the bombings.

They also showed a British prisoner of war who berated those who ordered the raids, adding it was ‘demonic’ and ‘evil’.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: atrocity; dresden; slaughterhouse5; unitedkingdom; warcrimes; worldwartwo; ww2
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Revisionist History.


21 posted on 02/15/2015 5:10:38 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

70th anniversary of VJ day.


22 posted on 02/15/2015 5:13:56 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: Fresh Wind

Thanks!


23 posted on 02/15/2015 5:16:15 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Fresh Wind

In August, we have the 70th anniversary celebrations of Hiroshima Day and Nagasaki Day.


24 posted on 02/15/2015 5:19:28 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Nazis, much like the Soviets, were cunning and evil; however, the bombing missions that morphed into the fire-bombing of Dresden weren’t originated by the Luftwaffe. The destruction of a city and most of its civilian population was an inhumane act.

At the onset Germany bombed military targets exclusively as Hitler specifically prohibited the Luftwaffe from bombing any civilian targets.

In August of 1940, two aircraft were seperated from their formation and wound up lost while evading fighters over England. They jettisoned a negligible amount of bombs over London resulting in little damage.

Churchill directed the RAF to begin bombing raids over Berlin four times in a row. After the fourth raid, Germany warned the UK not to bomb Berlin for the fifth time or they would be forced to retaliate.

So Churchill ordered the fifth bombing and the Luftwaffe began the blitz.


25 posted on 02/15/2015 5:19:40 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: Vaquero
We should have firebombed (in lieu of nuking) offending middle eastern cities(including those in Egypt and Saudi) after 9/11.

What do you mean "in lieu of"? One of the greatest failures of Congress and President Bush was not officially declaring war against Islamoterrorists and the countries that supported them. A declaration of war would have required the use of nuclear weapons against the enemy, or the political and military leaders would rightfully have been charged with treason.

26 posted on 02/15/2015 5:22:24 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What about the Luftwaffe bombing of London and Coventry during the Blitz, they started it...


27 posted on 02/15/2015 5:23:10 AM PST by Geronimo
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To: cripplecreek
Dresden


28 posted on 02/15/2015 5:24:04 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: snoringbear

Not true. There were people in Germany during WWII whom tried to defeat Hitler and were placed in concentration camps because of their activities against the Third Reich. Many were killed in the Concentration Camps just before the end of the War on Hitler’s orders, because he did want them to have their stories to be told because than the misguided people would see that Hitlers Mein Kampf, The Third Reich and the 1000 Year reign were just delusions of sick individual who suffered from syphillis. Have you ever heard of Dietrich Bonehoffer? There were other Protestant Ministers whom died too. What about the assassination attempts 2 on Hitler whereby many german generals were blamed for the underlings who carried out the attempts. Rommel was just one General sacrificed because he did not believe Germany would win the war. There were others too, whom went against Hitler. There were others whom fled the countries like Austria when Hitler took over power. There were even many partisans whom hated Hitler. Yes Dresden lost many lives. But it was hoped the germans would surrender. The Allies believed to use an atomic bomb on Germany would have devastating effects on all of Europe. The Kennedy Family lost a son during WWII on a secret mission (plane exploded in flight) to bring some type of Bomb that would cause significant harm to Hitler - bunker buster? nuclear? what type of bomb is unsure!


29 posted on 02/15/2015 5:24:05 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: cripplecreek

Bkmrk.


30 posted on 02/15/2015 5:28:46 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Desden in 2005.

31 posted on 02/15/2015 5:29:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ez
This is what happens in war. You kill the enemy. Not just the enemy soldiers, all of the enemy.

It can be argued that anything done to shorten an evil war is justified. But I'm torn by that.

Here's a hypothetical: Suppose in 1863 Lee had chosen to go for Pittsburgh instead of Gettysburg. And let's suppose he was able to capture Pittsburgh.

Now, Lee certainly would have been morally justified in burning Pittsburgh's foundries. those foundries made cannon for the Union army. But would he have been justified in killing all the skilled civilian foundry workers?

Certainly that's a very poor parallel with WW II. But I wonder...your thoughts?

32 posted on 02/15/2015 5:30:50 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: HomerBohn
At the onset Germany bombed military targets exclusively as Hitler specifically prohibited the Luftwaffe from bombing any civilian targets.

Was that Hitler's sense of altruism and fair play, or a strategic unwillingness to waste assets?

33 posted on 02/15/2015 5:31:01 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: abb
In August, we have the 70th anniversary celebrations of Hiroshima Day and Nagasaki Day.

I remember that day—I was so surprised, I dropped my rattle!

34 posted on 02/15/2015 5:31:08 AM PST by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Our air forces were actually running out of targets by then. Also, our dear ‘allies’ the russkis were BEGGING US to hit Dresden’s RAIL JUNCTIONS—you know, the ones in THE CENTER OF THE TOWN.
We obliged.
End of story.
After all, it wasn’t like the NAZIs were strangers to the bombing of population centers or anything. They just weren’t quite as good at it—is all.


35 posted on 02/15/2015 5:32:07 AM PST by Flintlock (Soapbox didn't work; ballot box neither--we're left with the BULLET BOX.)
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To: HomerBohn

And I still don’t care.


36 posted on 02/15/2015 5:32:36 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Fresh Wind
Was that Hitler's sense of altruism and fair play, or a strategic unwillingness to waste assets?

Who knows? Let's ask him.

Both Hitler and Churchill were, by and large, enigmas. Churchill wrote volume upon volume about the history of WWII personal accounts of the Boer War, most of which I've read.

Incidentally, the Boer War, in which Churchill played a part, was an example of insane cruelty to a 'race' of people who were, by and large, innocents.

37 posted on 02/15/2015 5:37:25 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Anyone who says Hitler wouldn’t bomb civilian targets is an idiot or a liar.

At best Hitler was known for using a strangely muslim tactic of going easy on nations that allowed him in with little resistance. Once the nazis were in they could “peacefully” raid the riches of those nations, put jews on trains and eliminate distinct national cultures. Hitler knew that Britain was not going to go easily so Britain got the stick rather than the carrot.


38 posted on 02/15/2015 5:40:23 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

That is Obama’s destruction of the US.

Done with a clown’s happy face.

God help US.


39 posted on 02/15/2015 5:43:40 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: cripplecreek
Anyone who says Hitler wouldn’t bomb civilian targets is an idiot or a liar.

How about both?

40 posted on 02/15/2015 5:43:58 AM PST by sport
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