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1 posted on 02/14/2015 6:22:51 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Hardens Hollow; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; ...

CWII Spark Ping — Ever more overreach.


2 posted on 02/14/2015 6:34:09 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Red Steel

I’m actually surprised they let us have them so far.


3 posted on 02/14/2015 6:47:44 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Red Steel

We like to Reload


4 posted on 02/14/2015 6:50:53 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Red Steel

Green tip M855 around $400 per 1000 right now.


5 posted on 02/14/2015 6:53:56 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Red Steel

One of the FIRST things Obama did after taking office was initiate construction of an IMMENSE Bat Cave under the White House.

THEN the ammo buy-up...

WHAT is he planning for...????

IT IS NOT GOOD.


7 posted on 02/14/2015 6:57:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Red Steel
Nevermind that standard lead-only 5.56 ammunition is “armor piercing” all on its own simply due to its velocity. The ATF believes that this specific ammo is somehow more dangerous.


Obama needs a faux excuse to ban.

About all centerfire rifle cartridges are "armor piercing" BUT the M855 is not made to be an AP rifle round. Here's the federal law.

"Armor-piercing ammunition, sometimes referred to as metal-piercing ammunition, is ammunition that is designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor, including body armor commonly worn by police officers. Under federal law, armor-piercing ammunition is defined as any projectile or projectile core that may be used in a handgun and that is constructed entirely from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium.15 In addition, armor-piercing ammunition is defined as a full jacketed projectile “larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.” Id. The Attorney General is required to furnish information to each licensed dealer defining which projectiles are considered armor-piercing ammunition as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(17)(B).16

The federal definition of armor-piercing ammunition, which is based on its content and weight, rather than on the ammunition’s actual performance against body armor, has been criticized because it fails to halt the manufacture and sale of all types of ammunition that can penetrate body armor.

The existing ban on armor-piercing ammunition can be made more effective by adopting performance standards that require ammunition to be tested for its ability to penetrate bullet-resistant vests and body armor, as opposed to the existing standard based on the bullet’s content."



The BATF is not being truthful as the M855 is categorized as a ball cartridge made up of mostly lead.

8 posted on 02/14/2015 6:58:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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I’ve never even heard of a 5.56 handgun. Sounds like something made up by the government specifically for this purpose.


9 posted on 02/14/2015 6:59:17 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi Clinton killed 4 & injured a dozen as SOS, imagine what she could do as CinC.)
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What about those head shot bullets? They better ban those too.


14 posted on 02/14/2015 7:26:11 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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but you do know it’s not the ATF , it’s Obama’s White House ,they say JUMP and all agencies say , How high


15 posted on 02/14/2015 7:34:45 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Red Steel

This is so bogus it will never hold up in court. Talk about contorted BS.

Expect Capt Chaos to come out with this kind of stuff on a weekly basis for 18 more months. He wants to wreak havoc on the country. Even if its only for a little while.


19 posted on 02/14/2015 7:52:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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the SS109 projectile does not meet the federal definition of armor piercing. To classify it as such needs an act of Congress. ATF is outside of their mandate. They may interpret law but they cannot make law. The definition is perfectly clear in Federal Code and this doesn’t cut it.


21 posted on 02/14/2015 8:11:59 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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Once again, legislating how we shoot and why


25 posted on 02/14/2015 8:55:24 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To all of those who think that we are secure in our homes. the goose steppers are after everything and anything they can take. Wake up and call your Reps!!!!!


28 posted on 02/14/2015 10:02:04 PM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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The Repub Congress needs to pass a law against this.


29 posted on 02/14/2015 10:06:37 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Red Steel
OK, ban 5.56 and .223. we'll just shift to .308 and 30-06.

Can't deer hunt with a .223 because it's too small.

I guess you're to stupid to figure it out. (the fed's that is.)

31 posted on 02/14/2015 10:56:05 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
I'm guessing that most of your folks are already aware of this latest big of regulatory overreach.

A check of all the bulk ammo sites reveals that prices have already gone up an average of 50 percent, most of which is sold out already anyway.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

35 posted on 02/16/2015 4:56:45 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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