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1 posted on 01/17/2015 6:43:50 AM PST by cleghornboy
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I thought he resigned. WTF is he doing hanging around?


2 posted on 01/17/2015 6:46:13 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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This must mean the blackmail of Judge Roberts has woked perfectly, just like with Odammitcare.

I once thought this might be the catalyst that led some states to secede, turning gay marriage into Roe v Wade II but the appeals courts have largely done that already.


8 posted on 01/17/2015 6:53:29 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ...

NOT the democracy and I don'y CARE if it's 46 to 4 ...

13 posted on 01/17/2015 6:58:29 AM PST by knarf
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I can see the penumbras all the way from here.


14 posted on 01/17/2015 6:58:36 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: cleghornboy

The pic on Drudge says it all


16 posted on 01/17/2015 7:03:38 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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Holder, Obola, Clintoon, et al, won't be satisfied till every American is a homosexual pothead.

And even then they'll find some new way to destroy America.

17 posted on 01/17/2015 7:06:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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It’s time for this fleabag to re-resign. He was supposed to be long gone a long time ago. What’s the hold up? His bull**** is getting old.


19 posted on 01/17/2015 7:16:20 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When the hell do I get MY white privilege? I'm tired of busting my @$$ for a living.)
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To: cleghornboy

Roe vs Wade all over again - “WE THE PEOPLE” have not approved - and in fact disapprove - gay marriage. Rule on this in favor of, and society as we know it is OVER.


20 posted on 01/17/2015 7:23:06 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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The choice is ours: We either view marriage within the context of the order of creation with God as its Author, or we sink into insanity

Taking on God isn't wise.


23 posted on 01/17/2015 7:54:39 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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I think the conservative side of the SCOTUS is extremely calculating as far as things go. Here are some of the direct and indirect ramifications of this decision:

1) If they issue a blanket ruling, applying to all states, then they have effectively ended Interstate Compacts and reciprocity agreements, the courts taking power away from congress, the states, and the people. (And many federal judges have been more than willing to do this in the past.)

“An interstate compact is an agreement between two or more states of the United States of America. Article I, Section 10 of the United States Constitution provides that “no state shall enter into an agreement or compact with another state” without the consent of Congress.”

But there is more: California’s Proposition 8 for heterosexual marriage was overturned by a homosexual federal judge because he didn’t like it, in a blatant and crude conflict of interest.

2) Homosexual marriage remains decidedly unpopular in the US (despite rigged polling to the contrary), except among federal judges willing to force the people to have to abide it, and very blue state legislatures, who gave the people no say in their decisions to support it.

For the SCOTUS to overturn it would be a significant rebuke to dozens of federal judges who have clearly exceeded their authority, so the phrasing of the decision would have to be crystal clear so these judges could not try to fudge their way around it.

3) The Equal Protection Clause of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment is often cited in this and many other cases, but the circumstances are questionable. Yet any decision here will be reflected in many other laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text

The basic question is: “Does ‘equal protection’ apply to all parts of the law? That is, states issue medical licenses, but not to everyone, only to those persons, with some exceptions, who are competent to practice medicine, “as determined by each state”.

And this is the zinger. Until these federal judges went on their spree of forcing homosexual marriage on the states and the people, it was up to the individual states as to whether two people could be married. And this was no simple decision by the states.

Those persons excluded from marriage: children, whose ages vary by state; polygamous marriages; incompetent (mentally deficient); inhuman marriages; forced marriages; exclusion of syphilitics; and homosexuals. States also have a strong interest in opposing prostitution and adultery leading to violence.

Importantly, the state interest in excluding homosexuals is for many reasons related to procreation and taxation, and supporting heterosexual monogamy, as background to procreation.

Likewise, the states have to contend with everything related to divorce.

The bottom line to all of this is that marriage is in the purview of the states, the one exception being the anti-miscegenation (mixed race marriage) laws that were forbidden by the SCOTUS in 1967.

This will be the key precedent used by the SCOTUS in their decision: is race equivalent to homosexuality?

The preponderance of evidence suggests not. Race is less important because all races belong to the same species, and a male of one race can likely reproduce with a female of another race, assuming biological capability.

However, the guiding purpose of homosexuality is *not* procreation, but financial. As such, since states generally offer a civil alternative to marriage that provides for equivalent benefits, there is no compelling reason for homosexuals to be married.

As a footnote: because of corruptions to marriage, such as forced marriage and the dowry, leftists reached the conclusion long ago that marriage is just a social contrivance, instead of an advantageous reproductive scheme. So leftists have no end of contempt for marriage, and have long sought to corrupt and destroy it; which is likely their sole initiative to this current oppression.


24 posted on 01/17/2015 8:01:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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"the Supreme Court announced Friday it will decide whether same-sex couples have a right to marry everywhere in America under the Constitution."

It will be interesting to read the language of the USSC opinion that would allow gay marriage but exclude polygamy or incestuous marriages. Especially if they use equal protection as their justification.

27 posted on 01/17/2015 8:35:04 AM PST by offwhite
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I think the Supreme Court is going to rule state SSM bans constitutional. Why else rule on whether states can fail to recognize SSM “marriages” made in another state? If it’s made legal nationwide, then, I assume the latter law becomes moot. If state SSM bans are ruled constitutional, then ....


30 posted on 01/17/2015 10:16:22 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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Another product of the Black “church,” ladies and gentlemen.


32 posted on 01/18/2015 7:27:51 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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