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1 posted on 12/18/2014 5:24:05 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

I have a question for you:

When did the Establishment become established?

2 posted on 12/18/2014 5:26:26 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Progressives do not want to discuss their history. I want to discuss their history.)
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1964 Taft v Goldwater.


3 posted on 12/18/2014 5:31:29 PM PST by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushes)
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My opinion: when the business interests that fund the establishment Republicans started pushing amnesty and more HB-1 visas as the economy tanked in 2007, caring more about cheap, pliable labor that Americans who needed jobs more.


7 posted on 12/18/2014 6:13:06 PM PST by tbw2
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I’m thinking it was in 1912, when Theodore Roosevelt decided to run as a third-party candidate under the Progressive “Bull Moose Party.” He split the Republican vote, so that Taft lost the presidential election to Woodrow Wilson — the first Progressive academic to defile the Presidency.


10 posted on 12/18/2014 6:53:44 PM PST by Maceman
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When they tried to take the microphone away from Ronald Reagan.


11 posted on 12/18/2014 7:45:17 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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Where and when did this conservative vs establishment battle begin?

1976 - Ford vs Reagan


12 posted on 12/18/2014 10:16:08 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (My love affair with an abuser is over. Support a third party.)
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There is no choice left but to withdraw all support for the GOP and let the chips fall where they may.


14 posted on 12/19/2014 1:43:38 AM PST by AdaGray
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Sixty conservative Republicans in the House could end Boehner’s rule by threatening to change party affiliation to Independent & refusing to caucus with the Pubs.

Five conservatives in the Senate could do the same thing to McConnell.

Both actions together would end the dominance of the Pub ruling elite, who are far more interested in maintaining their power & influence than doing anything good for America.

I suspect conservative Americans would back this defection overwhelmingly. The GOPe does not represent conservatives, therefore there is NO reason to support the GOP.

Note that the Whig party was replaced by the Republican party in less than 10 years.


15 posted on 12/19/2014 4:24:11 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Very informative history, well written with valuable links. Thanks for posting.

What makes today different is the surge in Independent voter registrations. In 2012 Independents comprised 24% of the electorate. In 2014 they comprised 42%. That’s an enormous increase and today they make all the difference. Who owns them? No one.

There’s a tendency for democrats and republicans to think Independents are somehow in the mushy middle, that they are moderates. This is wrong.

Who will Independents follow? In my analysis 2/3’s of them will follow Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz with 2/3’s of the Independents, all of the Republican Conservatives, the Blue Collar Perot Demographic, the Reagan Democrats and half of the Latino-American vote will win by 58% to 60%.


16 posted on 12/19/2014 5:52:55 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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See Genesis(KJV).


17 posted on 12/19/2014 8:26:23 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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When did the Establishment become established?

Well before the Romans . . . apparently. Lost in the Mists of Time, I think. The term “Liberal” is of more recent vintage; stolen by Democrats from the liberality of Jefferson’s and Madison’s ideas. The Liberal arguments, however, are as old any of the rationalizations of Establishment, looking to control the People.

Thanks for the BEEP!

20 posted on 12/20/2014 11:14:57 AM PST by YHAOS
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