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To: INVAR

Keep talking like that and I’ll tell you you’re the one who’s lost the spirit of liberty.

Here you are trying to convince everyone that the spirit of liberty is lost, but to do it you’re telling the only ones who still have a fighting spirit that they should drop it.


18 posted on 12/18/2014 7:24:18 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: INVAR

How do you think our country started in the first place?

With the same spirit of liberty you’re doing your best to squash.


19 posted on 12/18/2014 7:25:31 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith
Keep talking like that and I’ll tell you you’re the one who’s lost the spirit of liberty. Here you are trying to convince everyone that the spirit of liberty is lost, but to do it you’re telling the only ones who still have a fighting spirit that they should drop it.

Did you miss the entire point of why this reference was posted?

History is a perfect teacher. Yet so many delude themselves into thinking it does not apply to us at this time.

You can pump yourself up with all the false bravado and rah-rah patriotism you can muster, and it will not change the fact of what has been done to us, where we have arrived and what our condition is.

A 'fighting' spirit that thinks it can endure and win by ignoring reality because of Normalcy Bias is a spirit that is already defeated, it just does not know it yet. Just ask the editors of the Munich Post.

If we're going to fight for what is left of our liberty - we are going to have to get our minds out of the past and recognize the ground we are standing on and that our enemy has the heights.

Practicing insanity by thinking we can just vote more Republicans and 'win' in the face of a fundamentally transformed government that is now a tyranny, is the height of willful ignorance.

You cannot fight a tyranny via civil means.

21 posted on 12/18/2014 8:03:32 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: reasonisfaith
Here you are trying to convince everyone that the spirit of liberty is lost,

You better let John Adams' following words sink in, because what he wrote was not just an understanding of history and human nature, but I am convinced a prophetic warning:

"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it." John Adams, Letter to Abigail 1775

23 posted on 12/18/2014 8:20:54 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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