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To: Natufian

Have you seen a marriage certificate? I haven’t, though I haven’t made a thorough search. I know that Stanley Ann’s principle biographer, Janny Scott, was unable to turn up any actual evidence of a wedding. She ended up saying the couple was “reportedly” married at such and such a time and place.

As to citing the Birth Certificate, Natufian, that is not worth a lot. In case you hadn’t noticed, there are many questions about that birth certificate. Others have argued about it for years. I don’t intend to rehash the whole thing. But I will note, it would be better if you could cite a less controversial piece of evidence.

Put another way, if the BC is as legitimate as you and others claim, there *should* be additional evidence. For example, I recall when David Maraniss’ book was about to be released, there was a lot of pre-publicity. One item that got a huge amount of attention was the claim that Maraniss had located people who knew about Stanley Ann going to the hospital and giving birth. Wow—that would have been quite a scoop!

Except that Maraniss had located no one with any knowledge of Stanley Ann’s pregnancy at all. He had found people who knew Stanley Ann in HI, and people who knew Obama Sr. in HI, but no one who knew the two were even acquainted. He found no evidence of Stanley Ann’s presence in HI at all during the pregnancy period. That is the period, btw, about which I am asking you. Do you have any evidence a little more solid than a ‘reported’ wedding or a disputed BC?


113 posted on 11/13/2014 9:25:15 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

First you ask for ‘tertiary’ or ‘third hand hearsay’ evidence that she was in Hawaii during her pregnancy and when I provide that you move the goal posts and start asking for something ‘more solid’. Why?

Obama Sr’s and Dunham’s marriage is recorded in the Hawaii Marriage Index 1960-1965 and also in the affidavits relating to their divorce (including actual date which was during her pregnancy). You’ve claimed there’s no evidence whatsoever. There is.

Any evidence that she was in Kenya during her pregnancy? No? Thought not but that’s not so surprising for birthers; they have a history of making unsupported claims and then moving the goal posts or vigorous handwaving when they’re called on it.


114 posted on 11/13/2014 9:59:36 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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