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To: Fantasywriter

Did you use the step by step process to choose Kenya as her location? A sort of ‘I can’t establish she’s in Hawaii so I’ll just assert she’s in Kenya instead regardless of whatever evidence there is to the contrary’ step by step process? That would seem to lack rigor if you did.

BTW, I would agree that there isn’t much evidence that she was there but to say there isn’t “one hint of a scrap of a shadow of a tertiary, third-hand hearsay clue that she spent the 9 mos of her pregnancy in HI” would be exaggerating.

As I recall, there is a reference to their marriage some time in 1961 in Hawaii in their divorce papers and also IIRC there is some testimony from the doctor who delivered her child - both of those would be classed at worst as tertiary or hearsay evidence.


112 posted on 11/13/2014 9:04:56 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Have you seen a marriage certificate? I haven’t, though I haven’t made a thorough search. I know that Stanley Ann’s principle biographer, Janny Scott, was unable to turn up any actual evidence of a wedding. She ended up saying the couple was “reportedly” married at such and such a time and place.

As to citing the Birth Certificate, Natufian, that is not worth a lot. In case you hadn’t noticed, there are many questions about that birth certificate. Others have argued about it for years. I don’t intend to rehash the whole thing. But I will note, it would be better if you could cite a less controversial piece of evidence.

Put another way, if the BC is as legitimate as you and others claim, there *should* be additional evidence. For example, I recall when David Maraniss’ book was about to be released, there was a lot of pre-publicity. One item that got a huge amount of attention was the claim that Maraniss had located people who knew about Stanley Ann going to the hospital and giving birth. Wow—that would have been quite a scoop!

Except that Maraniss had located no one with any knowledge of Stanley Ann’s pregnancy at all. He had found people who knew Stanley Ann in HI, and people who knew Obama Sr. in HI, but no one who knew the two were even acquainted. He found no evidence of Stanley Ann’s presence in HI at all during the pregnancy period. That is the period, btw, about which I am asking you. Do you have any evidence a little more solid than a ‘reported’ wedding or a disputed BC?


113 posted on 11/13/2014 9:25:15 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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