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Time for V.P. Joe Biden to Relieve Barack Obama of Presidential Duties
Lawrence Journal world ^ | October 15, 2014 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 10/17/2014 12:44:38 PM PDT by kathsua

Increasingly even many Democrats are recognizing that the American ship of state is foundering. It's Captain seems out of touch with reality. The Captain may be stressed out or the problem may be more serious.

The American people are losing confidence in President Barack Obama's leadership. Movie Director Michael Moore says Obama has only one accomplishment. "100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it."

Republican voters are increasingly vocal in their calls for impeachment. There is a less divisive way of dealing with a situation in which a president is out of touch with reality because of stress or other reasons.

The 25th Amendment assigns the Vice President the responsibility of monitoring a president's condition and reliving a president who has become unable to handle the duties of the office.

've been concerned about Obama's mental state since the budget crisis a few years ago when he became irrationally obsessed with keeping World War II veterans from visiting their memorial. If he had been worried about protecting the memorial, I'm sure there are hundreds of military retirees in the vicinity of the District of Columbia who would have been willing to volunteer to protect the memorial.

I initially dismissed Obama's childish sounding comment about the navy during the Denver presidential debate as possibly being due to the affect of alcohol at high altitude. Now I think the comment could indicate he is out of touch with the real world.

"You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916," President Obama said. "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed. "We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go under water, nuclear submarines," he said.

Both aircraft carriers and submarines were used in World War I. The inability to protect ships from German submarines forced the United States to enter World War I. In 1916, the British navy was the free world's protector. Now the United States navy needs to play that role. This role requires a bigger navy than the United States had a century ago.

Politico has reported that "The West Wing has a preferred, authorized distillation of the president’s foreign-policy doctrine: 'Don’t do stupid [stuff]'. The phrase has appeared in The New York Times three times in the last four days. [prior to 06/01/14] So, if the White House’s aim was to get the phrase in circulation, mission accomplished!" "Don't do stupid [stuff]" sounds more like something Wally would say to his younger brother Beaver on the old "Leave it to Beaver" television show than the basis of a serious foreign policy. No wonder Obama had trouble finding a strategy to deal with ISIS.

Obama's highly publicized coffee cup salute demonstrated an apparent lack of awareness of where he was or what was happening around him. He was getting off a Marine helicopter when he returned a salute by Marines with a hand that held a coffee cup. . Military protocol says that a salute should not be returned while holding something in the hand. Obama has gotten off the helicopter possibly hundreds of times. He should be aware of the procedure by now and be aware that the media often watches him get off. He should have known Marines would be standing guard at the bottom of the steps and transferred the cup to the other hand or simply nodded his head to acknowledge the salute.

The incident might seem minor, but such socially inappropriate actions can be an early sign of dementia. Although Obama might seem a little young to be affected by dementia, many of us believe he might have risk factors for dementia. His Lincoln like build could indicate he has Marfan's syndrome which can cause fatal heart attacks. Many of us believe he is an alcoholic which is another risk factor for dementia. Alcoholism can be inherited. Obama's father was an alcoholic and Obama admits to heavy drinking in the past.

Dementia can be difficult to diagnose because "in the beginning, AD and other forms of dementia can resemble normal aging." Obama wouldn't be the first president to have some form of dementia. Ron Reagan reports that Alzheimer's was already affecting his father, President Ronald Reagan, during the second administration.

Psychology expert Dr. Gina Loudon goes so far as to say she has become “very, very concerned” that President Obama has become “irrational, erratic and perhaps not exactly what we might want to deem sane.”

On the other hand, Obama might just be stressed out. The pressures of the office may have become so great, he is no longer able to cope effectively with his situation.

Critics complain that he is taking too many vacations or spending too much time playing golf. These critics fail to consider that vacations and golf may be the only way Obama can cope with the extreme pressures he is under. Obama is having to deal with more pressure than any president who didn't have to deal with a major war. He continues to struggle to learn how to get sufficient support for his measures in Congress.

Numerous members of his administration have let him down, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with her foolish decision to not bring the Ambassador to Libya to Washington to keep him from becoming a target for a 9/11 anniversary terror attack.

Republicans are calling for impeachment, but impeachment would be very divisive and wouldn't be appropriate if Obama's deficiencies are due to a mental condition. Impeachment is a political decision with partisan concerns often overriding the issue of improper actions.

The 25th Amendment procedure is designed to deal with a situation where a president's condition may prevent limit his ability to handle the nation's problems. The procedure protects a president from a situation that could have potentially fatal consequences.

Historians believe that the stress of dealing with various scandals killed President Warren G. Harding. The stress of dealing with Watergate nearly killed President Richard Nixon. Fatigue from pushing the concept of the League of Nations temporarily incapacitated President Woodrow Wilson. Many historians believe his condition was so bad that his wife became the nation's virtual president.

If the stress of the presidency is adversely affecting Barack Obama's health, it would be irresponsible to not relieve him. The procedure for relieving a president under the 25th Amendment can be temporary. If Obama is merely stressed out, a temporary leave of absence could allow him to eventually return to office.

In observing President Obama the last few years I feel similar to Mr Scoff on the original Startrek series when he could sense the engines weren't functioning properly, but he couldn't tell why. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to functioning properly, but I'm not sure why. I don't know whether it's just too much stress or something more serious.

He hasn't looked well for the last month or so. Some of the video I saw of him a month ago resembled the appearance of someone who's recently been treated for cancer, although I'm sure it that were the case we would have been told. We men have a tendency to cover up health problems. We not only don't we tell our doctor, we may lie to ourselves and say nothing is wrong.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 25thamendment; barackobama; dementia; joebiden; livingbodyarmor; michaelmoore; plugs; remove
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To: kathsua

Can the order “citizens will now wear their underwear on the outside” (from the movie “Bananas”) be far away?


21 posted on 10/17/2014 1:12:45 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: kathsua

Don’t be fooled by this crap. The Dems. would love to have Biden in office for two years before the 2016 election. The MSM would be telling everybody that he did so wonderful after taking over the Presidency and saving the country, and the we should keep him in office for four more years.


22 posted on 10/17/2014 1:13:41 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: kathsua

Bttt.

5.56mm


23 posted on 10/17/2014 1:14:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MCF
What about Hillary?

If Biden becomes president and wants a full term isn't that setting the Dems up for an ugly primary fight?

24 posted on 10/17/2014 1:14:58 PM PDT by x
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To: kathsua

You’ve got to be kidding. Biden can barely relieve himself.


25 posted on 10/17/2014 1:20:26 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: kathsua

Right now, Joe Biden is very angry that Jarrett and the Obamas are not supporting his bid for 2016.

I could deal with Joe as Prez for two years. At least we would have a laugh a day instead of an outrage a day.

The big Dems need to huddle and after a disastrous mid-term two weeks from Tuesday will be the impetus for such a gathering.

And they need to use the 25th Amendment and send the Kenyan back to Chicago.

His handling of the Ebola crisis, ISIS, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East, Russia,Benghazi,Fast and Furious, the IRS, the VA,the Stimulus,the debt, etc.—the damage needs to stop.

And it is not just the Republicans who see it.

The nation is not going to survive another 27 months with this criminal cabal at the helm.

Even though he is a fool, Biden is not a hater of America as much as Obama is. Biden with a GOP led Congress might actually do some good things.

Obama with any Congress will still be a one man anti-American show.


26 posted on 10/17/2014 1:22:17 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Talk about jumping out of the frying pan...


27 posted on 10/17/2014 1:23:40 PM PDT by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning)
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To: kathsua
I can just hear Slow Joe's response...

"I don't think I'd feel comfortable relieving another man."

28 posted on 10/17/2014 1:24:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: pallis

“We will get rid of Obama in 2017. If he is replaced by Hillary, things will only get worse.”

Yeah, right...if anybody’s still alive !


29 posted on 10/17/2014 1:27:53 PM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Robert DeLong; bagman
Yeah, like Biden has the courageous brains do invoke that.

That's more like it.

And Biden is not only impeachment insurance, he's also assassination insurance. However...bad as things are getting, I'm wondering if anyone even cares how we get rid of Obola...just as long as it happens.

30 posted on 10/17/2014 1:29:27 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: kathsua

He’s a perpetual adolescent and a particularly bad one. Like the kid in the Twilight Zone move. No wonder his wife hates his guts. I guess that’s why the zero has BO, so blind people can hate him too.


31 posted on 10/17/2014 1:31:31 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Right now, anybody could do a better job than Obama is doing. Even that crazy Rimshot Joe.

I don't believe that - Obama has gone into lame-duck mode, he will pass no new legislation and evidently would like to spend the next two years at various golf courses. Biden would come in preparing to run for re-election in two years - he and the Democrats would put together and push for massive new spending programs in preparation for his run.

The last thing this country needs is a new Democratic president pursuing a first-term agenda - it'll be bad enough if we have Hillary in that situation in 2017, rooting for Biden to get to do it in 2014 is nuts.
32 posted on 10/17/2014 1:35:26 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: kathsua

Never. Happen.


33 posted on 10/17/2014 1:42:20 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

If we go with the scenario that Biden, being miffed at being ignored for 2016, allies himself with big Dem backers to push out Obola, he would still need some major help.

Enter Hillary! as the proposed VP to replace Biden when Biden takes the top slot. The Clintons have a grudge against the Chicago gang also from 2008.

Joe gets to be Prez for two years, and Hillary is positioned nationally again for the 2016 run, adding VP to her very impressive(projectile vomiting) resume.

How could this happen?

Well, ask yourself where Obola was the night of 9/11/12. He was in the White House, but not in the Situation Room. What if he was drugged out of his mind? Or doing something worse like buggering sheep or something.

Biden/Hillary! could tell him he has to go, or this all gets revealed.

Then no speech money, no book deals, no nothing—post Presidency.Michelle and her mother would be furious if the gravy train stops(literally and figuratively).

At least if he is retired to being overcome with stress, Obola could be seen in a sympathetic light—he tried too hard for America!—that he would still be able to participate in the post Presidential money making machine after he leaves office.

World history teaches us that stranger things than this have happened.

We could see it happen.

I think the deciding event will be how bad the Dems do on Nov. 4th.


34 posted on 10/17/2014 1:46:35 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: kathsua
Obama hasn't taken on any stress at all in the last 6 years, he's still on his _res__ential honeymoon.

You don't have a perfect track record of Treason if you suffer dementia.

35 posted on 10/17/2014 2:14:39 PM PDT by Hillbillary
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To: Sequoyah101

My so-called congressman (rat) isn’t taking e-mails or phone calls.


36 posted on 10/17/2014 2:52:04 PM PDT by anoldafvet (Why would the White House send 3 representatives to a thugs funeral?)
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To: kathsua

I’m reminded of an old Maddenism, regarding firing a coach and replacing him with one of the assistants: if that guy had all the answers then why wasn’t he giving them out before.


37 posted on 10/17/2014 2:53:57 PM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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To: kathsua
Movie Director Michael Moore says Obama has only one accomplishment. "100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected president.' And that's it."

Things must be really bad when ya lose the confidence of Michael Moore.

38 posted on 10/17/2014 2:58:58 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: kathsua
Historians believe that the stress of dealing with various scandals killed President Warren G. Harding. The stress of dealing with Watergate nearly killed President Richard Nixon. Fatigue from pushing the concept of the League of Nations temporarily incapacitated President Woodrow Wilson. Many historians believe his condition was so bad that his wife became the nation's virtual president.

Imagine the stress Odinga must be under -- a foreign enemy agent infiltrator, inserted at the highest level of government, so far and away beyond his 67-IQ capacity, with the sole mission of destroying the USA and its citizens. And the other, stupid half of the population is just starting to catch on to the plan, leaving Odinga without even his brainwashed zombies for support.

Oh the horror; that poor, pitiful thing.

39 posted on 10/17/2014 3:01:31 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: x

There is a large faction of dems that does not want Hillary in office. That is why Obama got the job in 2008.


40 posted on 10/17/2014 3:06:19 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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