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To: LeoMcNeil

It seems to me you just walked back your walk back and still hold “As such, I find Nuremberg to be hypocritical and nothing more than victors justice.” It seems to me you write as an advocate for the Nazis and a prosecutor of the Americans and British who vanquished them. You neither answered my question as to why, nor mitigated the severe spiritual and secular error in such a position. I suppose it is indicative of our lost nation but cannot understand the motivation to hate America first and Germany last, given the Nazi war crimes.


96 posted on 10/15/2014 6:56:20 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I’m not walking back anything. Nuremberg was victors justice. If we applied the same standards to the allies as we did to the National Socialists concerning war crimes then a number of people would have to be prosecuted. Churchill demanded the carpet and firebombing of German cities. In fact, the British were the first to attack civilian targets. FDR went along with this. Truman nuked Japan. Any number of generals supported the bombing and aided in planning and orchestrating the bombings. Stalin engaged in any number of war crimes, including the murder of Polish officers. Russian troops systematically raped German women.

All of the allies were responsible for the forced relocation of 12-15 million Germans. The expulsions removed Germans from historically German lands in the east, particularly east Prussia and the Sudetenland. Property was stolen, rights were denied. Over 1 million Germans died between the end of the war and 1947 due to the expulsions alone. That’s to say nothing of the million or two who died of starvation after the war when the allies refused to feed German civilians.

The issue for me isn’t that I support the Germans because I don’t. The issue is the hypocrisy. How can the United States charge National Socialist leaders with the very same war crimes our nation and our allies committed during the war? I advocate just shooting these people. If we were going to hold a trial, it should have been limited to the death camps and associated events. Everything else was rank hypocrisy and victors justice.

If you want an example of our “lost nation” it’s in the millions of people who can’t be bothered to think about Nuremberg. This isn’t a black and white issue, there’s more to the trial than the death camps. We have to look at the trial, the war and its aftermath from all angles. Refusal to do so is a good example of our failed education system. No one can think for themselves anymore.


98 posted on 10/15/2014 11:31:48 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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