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To: xone
For those not paying attention, Streicher, a CINO, was a Nazi propagandist. But according to some, just a stray. Pulling verbatim quotes from a condemned piece of literature takes no effort, in the 30s-40s, or today.
  1. Will you point to a date and place where the Lutheran Church condemned Luther's treatise called "The Jews and Their Lies" which the Nazis incorporated in their propaganda ?
  2. Most members of the Nazi Party, however, were Christians. Composed mostly by members of the Lutheran Evangelical tradition, members of the apostate Nazi inspired Positive Christianity sect and some of the Catholic faith tradition respectively. Since approximately there were two "of Luther" for every Catholic this seems feasible.
  3. The prevailing scholarly view since the Second World War is that the treatise exercised a major and persistent influence on Germany's attitude toward its Jewish citizens in the centuries between the Reformation and the Holocaust.[22] Four hundred years after it was written, the Nazis displayed On the Jews and Their Lies during Nuremberg rallies, and the city of Nuremberg presented a first edition to Julius Streicher, editor of the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer, the newspaper describing it as the most radically antisemitic tract ever published.[23]

73 posted on 10/11/2014 8:28:46 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
The Lutheran Church has its founding upon the acceptance of the Book of Concord in 1580. The Bible and the BoC form the basis of the Lutheran denomination. As the BoC was adopted after the death of Luther, and contains NONE of his AS semitic writings, there is no need for the Lutheran church to condemn it, the Lutheran Church had no part in it. By its exclusion, it stands condemned. However, contemporaries of Luther spoke unfavorably of it and recommended the seven actions described not be implemented. And they weren't; so much for his 'followers' taking his AS advice. They wouldn't take it while he was alive, yet some would have us believe they would 400 yrs later.

I might ask the same of you vis a vis the Catholic church's condemnation of its 1500 year+ history of AS. Have they finally stopped or as shown through their history, have paused for a few years only to be resumed with a change in the leadership of the papacy?

While I don't believe in paying for the sin of another, the LCMS due to continued questions re JATL passed a resolution condemning it here: www.lucasjs.com/aohe.../LCMS-on-Luthers-anti-Semetic-Statements.doc

WELS here: http://www.wels.net/news-events/forward-in-christ/october-2013/luther-and-anti-semitism?page=0,1

Historically, the lack of inclusion of the treatise in the BoC demonstrates that 34 years after Luther's death the Lutheran church had condemned it.

Re: your links, Wiki, impressive. And yet even in your reference you'll note that while proposed, Luther had no power to implement them. From the link in #48, seven years AFTER Luther's death, Catholic decreed AS for 24 of the 53 years until 1605. Expulsions, confinement to ghettoes, distinctive clothing, book burnings, book bans, all under the the guidance of Catholic leadership. Three Popes and a Cardinal directing. Were they under Luther's spell? Were they 'strays' from the faith? Just executing 'Luther's blueprint'? Or following their own detestable practice?

Your reference to a Nazi is again noted, I'm sure he loved the Reformation as much as you. No doubt he has credibility in your eyes for that alone.

74 posted on 10/11/2014 9:19:27 AM PDT by xone
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