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To: Fantasywriter
Clearly, if Dunham had not given birth to Obama, none of these four books would have been written.

Exactly. Full stop. All the biographers (liberal, not-so-liberal, whatever) accept as fact that Stanley Ann is Obama's mother. And why is that? The simple and obvious answer is that all available evidence points to the conclusion, and there is no credible evidence that any other person was Obama's mother.

This is really quite simple. By the time these biographers set about their task, most persons who would have the closest connection with Stanley Ann while she was pregnant (her parents, Obama, Sr., the hospital physician who signed Obama's birth certificate, etc.) were dead. Yours is one very weak argument from silence.

But my earlier point remains unanswered. So here it is again:

"In this nation one doesn't prove date and place of birth by chasing down old friends and family and procuring statements they saw one's mother pregnant --and then handing those to the Drivers License office, passport agency, etc. One gets the appropriate state agency to verify the birth facts. Hawaii has done that in Obama's case. And under our Constitution, those records are granted Full Faith & Credit as to any sister state.

On the question of eligibility, this is called "Game. Set. Match."

(You've ignored this point even more times than you ignored my early point about the 1990 "born in Hawaii" newspaper accounts. Will the ostrich ever come up for air?)

356 posted on 10/29/2014 12:20:32 PM PDT by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

‘This is really quite simple. By the time these biographers set about their task, most persons who would have the closest connection with Stanley Ann while she was pregnant (her parents, Obama, Sr., the hospital physician who signed Obama’s birth certificate, etc.) were dead. Yours is one very weak argument from silence.’

You claim a white woman married a black man in early 60s HI & became pregnant w his child. You claim she lived there 9 mos & gave birth, but no one, not one soul, remembers her. They don’t remember her living with Obama. They don’t remember her being pregnant. They don’t remember her giving birth/bringing a new baby home.

No, they’re not all dead. Plenty of people alive in the sixties are still alive. If Stanley Ann had done what you claim, someone would remember. The fact that NO ONE remembers her blows your theory to smithereens. I.e.: you say on the one hand that inter-racial couples were not common in those days; you say on the other that naturally anyone who might have seen her either doesn’t remember or is dead.

How do we know she never lived at the address listed in the bogus birth announcements? Because the daughter—the daughter, novel concept—of the people who lived there has stated it dispositively. She said neither Stanley Ann nor Obama Sr. ever lived there, and certainly Stanley Ann did not bring a new baby home to a place she’d never live [the daughter stressed that, not me].

So you cannot explain the bogus address on the bogus birth announcements, but you are confident Stanley Ann lived somewhere. You just have no freaking idea where.

Anti-birthers are...irrational.


358 posted on 10/29/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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