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An alternate view on Ted Cruz's speech at the In Defense of Christians conference.
1 posted on 09/11/2014 12:26:24 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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Hey Mollie, Bite Me!


42 posted on 09/11/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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An alternate view on Ted Cruz’s speech at the In Defense of Christians conference.

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Bull Cheese. Sen. Cruz was being heckled and shouted down by Jew hating anti-Zionists.


44 posted on 09/11/2014 12:51:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Screw ‘em. Cruz was 100% correct. My sympathy for them just dropped to near zero.


46 posted on 09/11/2014 12:52:24 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Not buyin’ defense of anyone who feels Israel is the problem.

The problem is Islam.

Practiced by Muslims.

Period.


49 posted on 09/11/2014 12:54:01 PM PDT by Da Coyote (00)
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With Muslims persecuting Christians in the Middle East, why are Christians there indulging in antisemitism? And if memory serves me right, Hezbollah blew up our marine barracks.


50 posted on 09/11/2014 12:56:11 PM PDT by Stepan12
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Some people simply cannot abide the truth or those who tell it. The idiots at this conference were likely not Christians at all, but pay more allegience to their religions than to the Lord Jesus Christ. Real Christians should have nothing to do with them.

I admire Cruz and his willingness to bring the hammer down on these fools in no uncertain terms. Wow! My kind of presidential candidate.

53 posted on 09/11/2014 12:57:53 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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Dear Pyro7480,

Please remove me from your anti-Israel, Jew-hating propaganda list.

Thank you,


sitetest

55 posted on 09/11/2014 1:02:07 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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These assclowns booed him when he said that the United States would stand with Israel. How that constitutes an insult is beyond me, but I would have done exactly the same thing Cruz did. Only I would have mooned them before I walked out.


73 posted on 09/11/2014 1:19:17 PM PDT by IronJack
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Those who practice the ancient faith handed down from the apostles aren’t real Christians, and therefore “our” national interest needn’t take notice of their welfare. Understand this and you understand much of American foreign policy for the past 100 years.

Godless in constitution and godless in practice.


79 posted on 09/11/2014 1:22:49 PM PDT by Romulus
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Obviously these Mid-East minority Christians were persecuted by Jooze.


80 posted on 09/11/2014 1:24:50 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Cruz was supposed to give the keynote address

They invited him to speak and he should have spoken.

If he hasn't made his point after speaking then that is the time to reveal disagreement. At that point, you can address all positions in a sane and civil manner.

This incident just adds more confusion regarding the merit of The Defense of Christian's agenda. An opportunity to share their agenda has been lost.

84 posted on 09/11/2014 1:26:08 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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Maronites are not united in their animosity towards Israel. Prior to the PLO’s expulsion from Jordan, a lot of them loved Israel.

Once the Palestinians flooded their country, however, a lot of Maronites grew bitter about Israel not wanting to taking them back and blamed the Civil War on them.

Even still, some Maronites maintain warm feelings towards Israel, others just chose to make a deal with the devil.


93 posted on 09/11/2014 1:51:07 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Thanks for posting that article. When I came to Free Republic I was impressed with the fact that the posters seemed level headed,practical,seriously seeking truth,generally speaking truth when they had facts backing it up and then I assumed that the posters were most probably living the truth. I thought that for the most part the membership/readership were a very reality based population and that I have always thought to be of utmost importance as we live our lives.

Over the past few years I find more people posting on Free Republic with opinions,that they seem to place on a par with facts. This leads us away from truth and into a world that doesn't exist but in the minds of folks who have kind of lost their bearings. There is no more core or foundation for many. This is dangerous.

I just pray everyone will step back and ask God to give them the mind or heart of those they hate and then try to understand why they might feel that way. It doesn't take long to figure it out.

96 posted on 09/11/2014 1:51:49 PM PDT by saradippity
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Cruz did the right thing for the right reasons. He’s a true leader.


102 posted on 09/11/2014 1:56:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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You really mean “slanted” view, right?

This naïve organization, per a spokesman, was infiltrated by muslim sympathizers to disrupt and give a bad impression of ME Christians.

Cruz handled the situation very well.


113 posted on 09/11/2014 2:11:02 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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This is full-on pile of crap and just a chance at taking a swipe at Ted Cruz.


114 posted on 09/11/2014 2:11:51 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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Obama wouldn’t be in office without Christian votes.


116 posted on 09/11/2014 2:20:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Ted Cruz Is No Hero For Insulting A Room Of Persecuted Christians

OK, what was the insult? That he stated, “Christians have no greater ally than the Jewish state?” How is this an insult? If it is because Middle Eastern Christians are not treated the way they want to be treated? Who treats them better in the Middle East than Israel and the Jews there? Are there any Jews beheading and slaughtering Christians? “Oh, but they don’t let them build their churches there!” It may be hard to get permits, but they do allow it. And they are not destroying the churches already established like the Islamic nations are. If anyone was insulted, it was Ted Cruz, and he is a hero for telling the truth!

122 posted on 09/11/2014 2:44:48 PM PDT by celmak
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The author is not very honest. Here's some background information on the neo-Nazi Middle Eastern Christians who want to destroy Israel and the U.S.A.

Ground to a Halt (Research shows: Suicide-bombers Communists, not Islamists
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2006 | ROBERT PAPE

Posted on Wed Aug 9 01:23:46 2006 by GodGunsGuts

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In writing my book on suicide attackers, I had researchers scour Lebanese sources to collect martyr videos, pictures and testimonials and the biographies of the Hezbollah bombers. Of the 41, we identified the names, birth places and other personal data for 38. Shockingly, only eight were Islamic fundamentalists. Twenty-seven were from leftist political groups like the Lebanese Communist Party and the Arab Socialist Union. Three were Christians, including a female high-school teacher with a college degree. All were born in Lebanon.

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Robert A. Pape, a professor of political science at the University of Chicago, is the author of “Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism.”



Iran is also communist, by the way (everything state-owned and much of it doled out to the families of clerics). I posted hundreds of articles on Iran and the need to take care of business there a long time ago, but anti-American, pecuniary, international socialist interests here threw trash in threads at nearly every article. Iran continues to build nuclear weapons.

On the Syrian-Lebanese-Iranian alliance.

Lebanon Is NOT Innocent (David Horowitz Slams The Lebanon “Innocent Bystander” Myth Alert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1671142/posts

Here's some very related information about Lebanon for those acquainted with geography, sub-populations and sentiments in the area.

Maronites are the predominant Christian population in Lebanon.

Harb pledges to be forceful president [Maronite "ready to fight" Israel, "protect Hezbollah"]
Lebanese Lobby (Lebanon) ^ | 11SEP07 | Francis Matthew

Posted on Wed Sep 12 03:12:26 2007 by familyop

"Beirut: Boutros Harb, long-serving Maronite Lebanese Member of Parliament, is standing for president and reaching out to the Shiite Hezbollah, across the political divide in the country.

[...]

"I have proposed that the Lebanese army and government must be in control of declaring war, and that we should find a way to incorporate Hezbollah's forces into the army. But this has to be on the condition that the Lebanese government and army accept the full duty of being ready to fight and protect Hezbollah if Israel attacks," he said, adding that it was also important that Lebanon had to liberate the occupied territory of the Sheba'a Farms from Israel."



Lebanese leaders call for unity [All of them support the terrorists. ...always have.]
CNN International ^ | 20JUL06 | CNN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668991/posts

"The ship is sinking and all of us, the Lebanese, should stick together and work together to stop the Israeli aggression," Amin Gemayel, a Maronite Christian who served as president from 1982 to 1988, told the Arabic-language TV station Al-Jazeera . . . Michel Aoun, a one-time commander in Lebanon's 15-year civil war who now serves in parliament, said . . . "I don't think that Israel has the capability to destroy Hezbollah militarily because Hezbollah is not a group of armed men," Aoun said. "Hezbollah is a major part of the Lebanese social fabric."


Lebanon says army ready to fight [The truth about Lebanon.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670344/posts

Aoun is also a Maronite Christian.


Lebanon Turns to the Vatican to Halt Israeli Offensive
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668754/posts

Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665678/posts


I'm going to allude to cultural differences going back thousands of years here. We, the majority of Americans, tend to lean away from the original cultures of Ishmael and Ham (his mother's heritage) without any basic tendency to initiate antagonistisms against that general culture. Granted, that culture has initiated antagonisms against ours, and some southern European constituencies have long covertly assisted it in doing so in propaganda and trade.

Here in America, we should be Americans in culture. Our culture and morals should continue to be more northern than southern (in re. European divisions) in domestic relations and relations with our allies. That was the nature of the establishment of early American society and our nation. Neither fascism nor communism suits us. We should not be cultural southern Europeans for the sake of any tie overseas--not even a religious connection (see WWII). In WWII, Americans fought as Americans--all kinds.

Many in Iran identify with many southern Europeans in a way and like to remind others that Iran means Aryan and that they are not Arabic. Well, we're more northern than that in morality and associated essence (think Norse, Gaelic, Anglo- and the like, see Reformation meetings in Holland before migration to early America with following 200 years of establishment in American law and society). Not Aryan or Nazi but northern--big difference there. And if nations with significant culturally southern populations want to continue blending with northern culture and identifying with it, they may continue to trend toward supporting it in every way (including cultural change leaning northern).

In fewer words, the U.S.A. is not Madrid, Rome, Athens or Syria. It's the U.S.A. And although many of our recent political politicians and influential constituents don't support Israel, the majority of Americans by far does support Israel. That's where the votes are, and that's where they'll be. So yes, Syria and its big brother, Iran, will be disarmed and eventually denazified.


124 posted on 09/11/2014 2:50:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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The fact is, as Mark Tooley explains in a very thoughtful and balanced piece

I read the peice and it was disturbing. He states, “It’s also in Israel’s interest that Christians and other minorities have protection, even if some of their spokespersons are anti-Israel.”

Oh? To be anti-Israel in the Middle East is to want the destruction of Israel. If there are Mideast Christians that are anti-Israel, why should Israel support them if they are out to destroy them? This quote from the author is naive.

“Many Mideast Christians are Arab nationalists. And whether for survival or genuine sympathy, some church leaders over the years have aligned with repressive regimes, like Assad’s and Saddam’s.”

So the onus is only on Israel to accept this, and not the Christians that have made their alliances with the devils? As an American Christian, I would say to any Mideast Christian that would want to destroy my country, “YOU WILL GO TO HELL IF YOU TRY!” If Mideast Christians want support from Israel, they need to stop allying themselves with those that want to destroy Israel.

131 posted on 09/11/2014 3:11:52 PM PDT by celmak
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