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Shooting to wound

Why shooting to wound doesn’t make sense scientifically, legally or tactically

Force Science re-states its case in light of recent “no-kill bill” proposal

A special report from the Force Science Institute

Do police officers really have to kill people when they shoot them? Couldn’t they be more humane and just aim for arms or legs?

As reported in Force Science News, New York state Senator David Paterson [D.-Harlem] pondered those questions in 2006 and concluded that officers were needlessly killing suspects. In response, he introduced legislation that would require officers to try to shoot offenders’ limbs instead of targeting locations that would more likely stop the threat but could also result in death. Paterson proposed that any officer who employed more than the minimum force necessary to stop a life-threatening suspect be charged with felony manslaughter. Law enforcement exploded in protest and Paterson withdrew the bill.

But the battle isn’t over.

The New York Post has just reported that Brooklyn Assembly Members Annette Robinson [D.-Bedford Stuyvesant] and Darryl Towns [D.-East New York] have introduced a “minimum force” bill that would require officers to “shoot a suspect in the arm or the leg” and to use firearms “with the intent to stop, rather than kill.”

“When I encounter civilian response to officer-involved shootings, it’s very often ‘Why didn’t they just shoot him in the leg?’” Dr. Bill Lewinski, executive director of the Force Science Institute, told Force Science News in a 2006 interview centered on Paterson’s proposed legislation. “When civilians judge police shooting deaths-on juries, on review boards, in the media, in the community-this same argument is often brought forward. Shooting to wound is naively regarded as a reasonable means of stopping dangerous behavior.

“In reality, this thinking is a result of ‘training by Hollywood,’ in which movie and TV cops are able to do anything to control the outcomes of events that serve the director’s dramatic interests. It reflects a misconception of real-life dynamics and ends up imposing unrealistic expectations of skill on real-life officers.”

Vice President Joe Biden agrees. When Michael Paladino, president of New York’s Detectives Endowment Association, showed him the bill he reportedly scoffed and suggested that it be called the “John Wayne Bill” because of the unrealistic, movie-like sharpshooting skills it demands of officers.

In light of this resurfacing of misguided “shoot-to-wound” thinking, Force Science News is reissuing a “position paper,” originally introduced following Paterson’s ‘06 proposed legislation, that discusses why shooting to wound versus shooting to stop is neither practical nor desirable as a performance standard. We hope this information proves useful to you in addressing any shoot-to-wound advocacy that may arise in your jurisdiction.

Read all at: http://www.pfoa.co.uk/110/shooting-to-wound


14 posted on 08/18/2014 6:58:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

End result will be like many other places.
The police will be put under fed supervision.
They will then pretend to police like they do in Chicago
and many other places. Black on black crime will increase and the body count will continue to rise.


21 posted on 08/18/2014 7:00:45 AM PDT by jonose
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To: KeyLargo

When an assailant charges you and starts pummeling you at close range, how do you get a good shot at the assailant’s arms or legs? Wouldn’t you be using your arms to protect yourself and trying to push the assailant away?

To get a clear shot at arms or legs, wouldn’t you have to shoot while the assailant was some distance from you? And if the assailant was some distance from you, then wouldn’t you have to show restraint because you aren’t in imminent danger?


38 posted on 08/18/2014 7:06:57 AM PDT by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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To: KeyLargo
Senator David Paterson [D.-Harlem]
Brooklyn Assembly Members Annette Robinson [D.-Bedford Stuyvesant] and Darryl Towns [D.-East New York]

Hmmmm .... just protecting the interests of their constituency? A "workplace safety" bill for robbers, rapists, and murderers?

41 posted on 08/18/2014 7:07:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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