Posted on 08/15/2014 6:41:49 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
The truth probably lies somewhere between your exlpalanation and post #68.
I would say that's a sweeping generalization that has gained currency after the fact as the postmodern deconstruction of society became de rigueur among the intelligentsia.
Sure the narrative will change. And, there is no reason to disagree with the argument “no one should be killed because they stole $43 worth of cigars.” Attack a police officer though, and you are asking to be shot.
I don’t know much about Ferguson, Missouri. But, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of a murder he committed because the jury knew the L.A.P.D. was corrupt and planted evidence sometimes. I did not know that at the time, but the Rampart scandal evidence eventually came out.
In Ferguson, the citizens are addressing their concerns with local government. Michael Brown might be the wrong hero for their cause, but there may be other problems that made the community assume the shooting was not justified.
An author writing an article decades after the fact does not make it so. My parents were both born in 1915 and lived through the period. I asked my mother about this years ago, well before she died. She said no one rooted for Dillinger or Bonnie and Clyde. Of course she was growing up in Southern California, and sympathy for bank robbers was more widespread in the Midwest and plains states where bank foreclosures had ruined many lives.
Now I never wrote that NO ONE sided with Dillinger. I maintained your post was a sweeping generalization and I stand by that. There was no popular culture that glorified gangsters like hip hop and rap at the time and no one went around spray painting “Dillinger Lives” on brick walls.
Jury nullification. The real reason was that Simpson's lawyers and Simpson himself made it a racial issue. There was a definite racial divide on whether Simpson was guilty or not. And objective review of the evidence points to the overwhelming guilt of Simpson.
In Ferguson, the citizens are addressing their concerns with local government. Michael Brown might be the wrong hero for their cause, but there may be other problems that made the community assume the shooting was not justified.
Race will provide the deciding role. A mostly black community with a mostly white police force.
They probably didn’t use spray paint back then to be able to spray paint walls. :)
You KNEW pictures like this were out there.
I believe the young man was active in gang(s), and I believe it is the reparations mentality that has this "incident" flaring to civil war level. The guilt or lack there of has no bearing at this time.
This is another case that has been fogged over so it will be hard to discern fact from fiction. Flashing gang signs may make it more likely he wasn’t a “good boy”, but it doesn’t automatically presume the shooting was justified. What happened to set it off has a number of versions and it is starting to look like he did have a physical confrontation with the cop while the cop was still in the car - that part can alter a lot of aspects. How the actual shooting went down is the real meat and potatoes and should outweigh all else - even if he hit the cop and wrestled for the gun, if he disengaged, was retreating rapidly, and was no longer an imminent threat, it wasn’t a good shoot.
I don’t know much about gang signs, but that look to me like giving the middle finger.
"We're Number One."
and a President who got involved but cant attend the funeral of a General killed in Afghanistan, did he send anyone to represent his office??? ahhhh to busy golfing,now I understand.
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Last night, we watched a local Baltimore “news” program. In reporting on the Missouri riots, the “reporter” said that the situation “forced the president to interrupt his vacation” to comment. Honestly, that is what this fool said.
There is one of Obola pointing a “gun” finger at a man. Perhaps I have been pranked, but it sure looked like a true photo when I saw it here on FR.
Really? If this young man just mouthed off at you, you would shoot him? That is a bit extreme, don’t you think?
None of us know yet what actually happened in this case. Perhaps we will know soon. Hard to know yet.
I don’t see any evidence that he was involved with gangs. You want to believe that, so you do.
I would take evidence.
As for the looters, this was merely their latest excuse for violence and stealing.
Pieces of worthless trash, every looter.
+1
My parents grew up poor in Philadelphia during the period you refer to. They, also, did not think highly of those gangsters.
Certainly no role model.
You are right! I looked it up. Spray paint cans didn’t come in till after World War II. They probably didn’t have markers either.
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