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Feds Confiscate 40 Land Rovers Over VIN Controversy: Claiming they are actually newer vehicles
The Newspaper - A Journal of the Politics of Driving ^ | August 1, 2014

Posted on 08/05/2014 3:09:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Feds Confiscate 40 Land Rovers Over VIN Controversy Federal agency seize 40 old Land Rovers, claiming that they are actually newer vehicles.

Forty Land Rover SUVs have been taken away from owners around the country by armed federal agents descending on private property with overwhelming force. Agents for Homeland Security Investigations last month wrapped up the seizure of forty vehicles pursuant to a sealed warrant issued in May. The agency insists that there were discrepancies with the VIN numbers for cars imported by Aaron Richardet at Patterson Auto Sales in Wilmington, North Carolina, and that the Land Rovers violated Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and US Department of Transportation (DOT) standards.

These regulations do not apply to cars that are at least 25 years old, but owners of the grabbed vehicles had no chance to present a defense before their SUVs were taken. The owners were only given until June 23 to file a formal contest to the seizures, which they could not have done because the court did not unseal the case until July 16. US District Judge James C. Fox denied a request to give owners more time to contest the seizure of their property.

Chris J. Benway paid $11,000 and invested another $23,607 in upgrading and servicing his blue 1984 Land Rover, which agents grabbed from his property on July 15.

"We cooperated fully with the forfeiture and will continue to cooperate," Benway told the court. "However, I do not believe this vehicle was imported illegally due to its being 25 years old at the time of purchase, and we have not seen any evidence of VIN tampering on the vehicle."

The government argued that the imported cars were actually 2000 model year and newer, and therefore subject to the EPA and DOT regulations. Daniel M. Harrington, an owner who wants his 1983 Land Rover Defender back says the government claim is nonsense.

"A basic visual inspection of the vehicle reveals that the same was manufactured far earlier than 2000," Harrington told the court. "I was advised that the Land Rover Defender YIN: [...] was manufactured in 1983 at the time I purchased it. My visual inspection of the vehicle reinforced this information as the vehicle exhibited correlative signs of aging and the vehicle's features were consistent with the features of Land Rover Defenders manufactured in 1983. Additionally, I had the vehicle examined by an expert in the field, who confirmed that the Land Rover Defender VIN [...] was manufactured in 1983."

Department of Homeland Security Special Agent Christopher M. Feldman said that he inspected the "non compliant" vehicles and found discrepancies in the Land Rovers imported by Patterson Auto Sales. He presented his findings to the court.

"The chassis was galvanized and Land Rover has not manufactured Defender vehicles with a galvanized chassis," Feldman claimed. "The engine was a 2.5 TDi 5 cylinder (Storm) engine, manufactured from 1997 to 2007, which cannot be retrofitted into a 1986 Defender Station wagon chassis; the vehicle color does not match the original Venetian red; a number of interior and exterior features were not introduced into production until significantly later model years."

Richardet, the importer, had explained the discrepancies to the Customs and Border Patrol agency in an email two years ago.

"The truck was taken down to the frame," Richardet wrote. "It was sand blasted then galvanized to prevent rust. The doors are prone to rust are scrapped and swapped out for newer ones. The old dashes have been out of production since 2004 so the newer dash is used if the old one is bad. The restoration shops try to make modifications and upgrades to the trucks to make them safer and more user friendly. Just like restoring an old Camaro old parts get junked and newer go one. I hope he will see that. All those parts are available from Land Rover and the truck has changed so little you can bolt them right on."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: automotive; epa; fascism; homelandsecurity
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1 posted on 08/05/2014 3:09:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All your land rovers are belong to us!


2 posted on 08/05/2014 3:13:45 AM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"These regulations do not apply to cars that are at least 25 years old, but owners of the grabbed vehicles had no chance to present a defense before their SUVs were taken. The owners were only given until June 23 to file a formal contest to the seizures, which they could not have done because the court did not unseal the case until July 16. US District Judge James C. Fox denied a request to give owners more time to contest the seizure of their property."

Perfect authoritarian thinking. Citizen, you had a chance to appeal and you didn't. You are guilty and now you are talking to the press; another offense. Now be quiet and pay your taxes ... or else.

3 posted on 08/05/2014 3:17:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And they didn’t shoot these people’s dogs?....... I’m stunned!


4 posted on 08/05/2014 3:18:24 AM PDT by high info voter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1984

2007

This seizure is full of holes.

5 posted on 08/05/2014 3:23:43 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...as I’ve noted before, ANYTHING that gets British Cars off the road is a GOOD THING.


6 posted on 08/05/2014 3:37:15 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Got any pictures of the cars that were seized? They could be a Frankenstein concoction, taking parts from different years, but retaining the old VIN numbers.


7 posted on 08/05/2014 3:45:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Presuming the government is lying, what do they gain from this?


8 posted on 08/05/2014 3:45:57 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

40 more vehicles for ISIS, drug cartels or faux “militia terrorists” here in this country?


9 posted on 08/05/2014 3:49:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

No, but the '84 is very similar one owned by friend of mine.

10 posted on 08/05/2014 3:52:42 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: sakic

“Presuming the government is lying, what do they gain from this?”

Two things government agencies do not have to make are sense and a profit. So “gain” is not a factor in their action, just flexing muscle.


11 posted on 08/05/2014 3:54:02 AM PDT by TonyM
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Very kewl lookin’ ride, reminds me of the old International Harvester trucks.


12 posted on 08/05/2014 4:07:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: sakic

It may simply gratify the lust for power of some petty bureaucrat.


13 posted on 08/05/2014 4:09:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: sakic

People get into government because they enjoy using power against other people.


14 posted on 08/05/2014 4:15:46 AM PDT by all the best
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I miss the rule of law.


15 posted on 08/05/2014 4:17:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hard to believe this is happening in America.


16 posted on 08/05/2014 4:37:23 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Standard Operating Procedure in all banana republics.

Some bureaucrat(s) desires your property and SHAZAM, it becomes contraband to be confiscated by the state. Then after the hearings by a kangaroo court, said contraband is sold or gifted to members of the ruling class.


17 posted on 08/05/2014 4:44:27 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: BobL
...as I’ve noted before, ANYTHING that gets British Cars off the road is a GOOD THING.

If your using a Land Rover correctly it pretty much should never be on the road. Jusayin'

18 posted on 08/05/2014 4:49:14 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: sakic
Just keeps them in business.

Like the standoff at the Dude's Ranch.

19 posted on 08/05/2014 4:50:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3182031/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3187865/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3187723/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186962/posts

Note the fate of the LR in this last one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3060058/posts


20 posted on 08/05/2014 4:53:26 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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