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Vanity: MI-4 Dave Camp's District, Primary on Tuesday
2 August 2014 | Me

Posted on 08/02/2014 9:56:47 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt

I live here in Central Michigan. Dave Camp MI-R, Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee is retiring. We have a primary race between Paul Mitchell, John Molenaar and Pete Konechty.

Konechty filed to run against Camp before he dropped out, seems to be the true Tea Party candidate. Molenaar is a State Senator and Paul Mitchell, businessman/GOP finance chair, both filed after Camp dropped out. I'm going by memory on this.

Paul Mitchell has swamped the district with tv, radio, internet, mail and robocalls. Molenaar has followed with radio ads and mailers. I haven't heard from Konechty, who I believe has been swamped. Molenaar has been endorsed by Camp, Tea Party Express and Sen. Mike Lee.

Both the top dogs have been running as true conservatives and attacking the others. I don't know who to believe in this race.


TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: michigandavecam; michigandavecamp; primaryelection; trueconservative
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Michigan FReepers, what's up in this race? Who do I believe? Any thoughts, facts opinions?
1 posted on 08/02/2014 9:56:48 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: cripplecreek

Would you please ping the Michigan Ping List for this thread? Thanks.


2 posted on 08/02/2014 10:00:43 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
4th district race questions.

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3 posted on 08/02/2014 10:00:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Don’t believe the one financed by the GOP. Don’t believe the one financed by the Chamber of Commerce. Don’t believe any of them that tells you we need to implement any kind of immigration reform other than enforcing current laws.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 10:00:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
They're all running as true conservatives. I'm suspicious of both Paul Mitchell, because he was the GOP state finance director and is spending alot of money. I'm suspicious of John Molenaar, because he is a politician, a State Senator. Mitchell charges that Molenaar voted for a bunch of tax increases, 160 I believe. But he's been endorsed by the Tea Party Express and Sen. Mike Lee.

Who do believe?

5 posted on 08/02/2014 10:10:47 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Check the Mackinaw site for Molenaar voting record.

http://www.michiganvotes.org/SearchVotes.aspx?EntityID=1492&CategoryID=0&Keywords=&op=Search&CVN=10000


6 posted on 08/02/2014 10:15:16 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Which one categorically states he will not allow any form of Amnesty, legitimization, pathway to citizen ship and want’s illegals rushing our borders to be deported instead of dispersed irretrievably?


7 posted on 08/02/2014 10:16:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Camp voted against the border bill yesterday. Whomever he is supporting, we should be against.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 10:18:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Only 4 republicans voted against it and I believe Upton was the only one.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 10:44:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
Only 4 republicans voted against it and I believe Upton was the only one.

Actually Upton voted for it and Camp did not vote.

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 478

10 posted on 08/02/2014 11:09:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I met Mr. Konetchy this spring, just before Dave Camp announced he wasn’t running again. He’s OK, I think maybe the best choice of the three, but I just don’t know for sure because all I know about Mitchell is he has a lot of money to waste on robo calls and postcards and radio spots. I have the general impression that Moolenaar is the Chosen One and will disappoint.

Konetchy’s website has a lot of information, more than most candidates have, it seems. https://www.peterkonetchy.com/


11 posted on 08/02/2014 4:23:03 PM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: Mrs. P

I was polled and said I would vote for Konechty. But I don’t think he has a chance. I’d like not to waste my vote on a RINO. I still don’t know enough about Mitchell or Moolenaar. I’m leaning to Moolenaar based on the Sen. Mike Lee endorsement.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 6:00:49 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Go to the post above to see what Moolenaarn voted for and against. If you are leaning towards him his voting record is the best way to see how he will vote. All his votes are there in the link above.
13 posted on 08/02/2014 6:18:51 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Here is the link agian:

http://www.michiganvotes.org/SearchVotes.aspx?EntityID=1492&CategoryID=0&Keywords=&op=Search&CVN=10000


14 posted on 08/02/2014 6:19:23 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I’ve met Konetchy and he’s a softspoken but highly principled guy. A friend of mine is helping him. “Good guy running on a shoestring budget” was his comment. I hear Mitchell is a RINO and that Moolenaar is mainstream establishment but at least a social conservative. I don’t live there but I’d support Konetchy, Moolenaar, and Mitchell in that order .


15 posted on 08/02/2014 8:48:47 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Darren McCarty

At least one of the local tea party groups support Konetchy. Gladwin.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 8:55:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I didn’t know about the Mike Lee endorsement. That helps. I am probably voting for Konechty in the primary.

It worries me a bit that Mitchell could be riding a wave of anti-establishment sentiment and once he got in would be a RINO. I still haven’t seen any TEA party endorsements of any of these guys, have you?


17 posted on 08/03/2014 10:28:40 AM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: Mrs. P

Tea Party Express endorsed Moolenaar.


18 posted on 08/03/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I just wasted an hour of my life listening to a live teleconference with Paul Mitchell.

He might be OK if he gets in, but mostly he just kept making noise about being an outsider and repeating campaign lines.

I wonder why TPE didn’t endorse either of the other two guys?


19 posted on 08/03/2014 1:55:58 PM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: Mrs. P; cripplecreek; Gaffer; kabar; jimpick; Darren McCarty
for the District 4 people interested, Moolenaar's having a teleconference with Rick Santorum in 40 minutes from right now at 6:45 pm: 989-785-7007. The message said he'll have more calls.

Mrs. P, it would be interesting to have your take and comparison on the 2 teleconferences.

20 posted on 08/03/2014 3:10:55 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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