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Immigration Hype
Natural Born Conservative ^ | July 26, 2014 | Larry Walker, Jr.

Posted on 07/26/2014 5:27:55 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative

A Never-Ending Scheme

:: By: Larry Walker, II ::

According to the New York Times, “Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.”

And, “If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises...”

What’s so wrong with this plan? It sounds a lot better than the utter chaos we have today. The pilot program proposed for Honduras would allegedly cost up to $47 million over two years, under the assumption that 5,000 refugees would apply, and about 1,750 would be accepted. What’s so bad about that?

The only flaw I can find is that because 16,500 unaccompanied children have arrived from Honduras, just since October 1st (over the last 9 months), actually up to 44,000 could apply for refugee status over a 24-month period ((16,500 / 9) * 24). That means this pilot program could actually wind up costing upwards of $413.6 million (($47 million / 5,000) * 44,000). Oops!

Furthermore, since the population of Honduras (under the age of 15) is around 2.8 million, assuming they all want to exit, the program could last for upwards of 127 years, with a total cost of around $26.3 billion ($413.6 million * 63.5 two-year periods). With an acceptance rate of 35%, we could wind up with around 981,584 Honduran refugees over the next 127 years. But that’s not the end of this proposal.

Since the program would then be adopted in Guatemala and El Salvador, which have populations (under the age of 15) of 6.0 million, and 2.0 million, respectively, again assuming all want to join us, the program could last for upwards of 270 years (concurrently), with a total cost of around $101.0 billion, assuming similar costs in all three countries.

All in all, we could wind up taking in 3.8 million refugees, at a cost of around $101 billion, over the next 270 years. But keep in mind; this only includes the cost of processing and transporting them to the United States. It does not include the cost of feeding, educating, housing, etc… And then where does it end? How many other countries could declare worse crises?

Does this still sound like a great plan? Not so much.

The Hype

The hype involves all the stupid comments I’ve been reading from so-called Conservatives, across the web, such as the following:

“Obama is not stupid; he is a very smart man that has the backing of his money people. He wants to overpower the voting system to get as many people into the USA so that the Democrats can stay in office for years to come. Therefore they can have full control of everything in this country.”

“One thing it means is that an immigrant will be automatically registered as a demoRAT with full voting privileges. You and I have to actually fill out a form, the immigrants, being illiterate (no-speaky Inglés), get a pass.”

Really? Do you all really think these kids are thinking about which political party devised the plan to let them in? As far as I can tell, all they see right now is America the Beautiful. But anyway, why are Conservatives worrying about some election ten or twenty years from now, instead of focusing on this year and 2016? Do I need to spell out why the above is nothing but hype? Alright then, because of the following:

  1. Children cannot vote.

  2. Even Permanent (aka. Legal) U.S. Residents are not citizens and thus cannot vote.

  3. One must be over the age of 18, and have been a permanent resident of the U.S. for 5 years before he or she can apply for citizenship.

  4. Once citizenship is applied for, and one passes the test and pays the $700 fee, then, and only then, is he or she eligible to vote.

  5. Assuming citizenship is attained, how such a person chooses to vote is a matter of personal preference, influenced by individual life experiences.

Perhaps it’s time Conservatives forget about some fantasy election decades away, and focus on things that really matter, like the potentially ridiculous overall cost of this never-ending scheme.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: budget; costs; election; immigration
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1 posted on 07/26/2014 5:27:55 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative
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To: NaturalBornConservative
without making the dangerous trek through Mexico

We're going to go get them?
2 posted on 07/26/2014 5:31:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Just another tactic of the no borders,internationalist Democrats. Elections matter greatly.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 5:36:56 AM PDT by allendale
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To: NaturalBornConservative

In regard to the voting issue: If they (the pols) are breaking the laws now (i.e. immigration, etc.) what’s to stop them from breaking/changing the laws in regards to voting? The constitution has nothing to do with it anymore.


4 posted on 07/26/2014 5:43:50 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: mark3681

Aren’t they allowing illegals to vote in some city and state elections around the country now?

If they are, what prevents illegals from voting since the presidential elections are on the same ballots?


5 posted on 07/26/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: allendale

“Just another tactic of the no borders,internationalist Democrats. Elections matter greatly.”

And, don’t forget the no borders/internationalist republicans.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 5:46:54 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: cripplecreek

Nothing that I’ve seen in the last decade or so.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 5:47:39 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: mark3681

The day after the 2012 election, Obama’s illegal DREAMers protested the Michigan secretary of state for her refusal to give them driver’s licenses.

One of their complaints what that it made them feel singled out when illegally voting.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 5:51:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: mark3681

Both are a real menace to American culture but the Democrats are clearly worse.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 5:53:42 AM PDT by allendale
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To: NaturalBornConservative
Children cannot vote.

They aren't children forever. AND in many cases they have relatives here who can vote.

Even Permanent (aka. Legal) U.S. Residents are not citizens and thus cannot vote.

They won't be legal permanent residents forever. The goal is to provide them a path to citizenship.

One must be over the age of 18, and have been a permanent resident of the U.S. for 5 years before he or she can apply for citizenship.

Laws can change. And even if they don't Dems are running a marathon here, looking 20-30 years down the road.

Once citizenship is applied for, and one passes the test and pays the $700 fee, then, and only then, is he or she eligible to vote.

The fee can be paid for by someone else. Like La Raza. It can also be waived.

Assuming citizenship is attained, how such a person chooses to vote is a matter of personal preference, influenced by individual life experiences.

Everyone here is familiar with the "Knock and Drag" methodology of GOTV, right?
10 posted on 07/26/2014 5:54:45 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Central Americans seem to have a strong propensity toward marxism.


11 posted on 07/26/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: allendale

“Both are a real menace to American culture but the Democrats are clearly worse.”

I know you didn’t mean it this way, but, sounds like the “lesser of two evils” story. Would you rather die quickly, or by a thousand paper cuts?


12 posted on 07/26/2014 5:58:01 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: tanknetter

good responses.

Evil is patient.


13 posted on 07/26/2014 6:00:27 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: cripplecreek

“We’re going to go get them?” - That’s the idea anyway. We screen them over there and then fly them in all at our own expense. We worry about what to do with them later, I guess.


14 posted on 07/26/2014 6:00:50 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: mark3681

Just mean that the Democrats are hopeless. There is hope that the Republicans can be influenced and their policies effected by the grass roots. Bottom line is either there is some success or within two generations American culture will be passe.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 6:03:20 AM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale

“There is hope that the Republicans can be influenced...”

I wish I could be that optimistic. I don’t believe there is any hope for the “republicans” anymore. A take-over by the Tea Party, and a name change, might be our only hope at this point in time.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 6:13:12 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Reading this article puts my fears to rest.

Now I am sure the gang members, criminals, and assorted peasants brought up in a corrupt country who would lie about being a refugee would not lie on the voter registration form and vote illegally. Though they cut in line ahead of their own countrymen they will wait the required 5 years before voting in the party that will allow their relatives to also cut the line. Silly me I thought unchecked immigration was a bad for America as it was for the Roman empire.


17 posted on 07/26/2014 6:22:48 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

1.Children cannot vote.
Bet their names are on the democrat voter list.


18 posted on 07/26/2014 6:42:57 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: cripplecreek

The #1 issue for Hispanic voters in the 2012 election wasn’t immigration reform.

It was their overwhelming support for Obamacare.


19 posted on 07/26/2014 6:47:19 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Now we’re going to airlift them in? At taxpayer expense? We’re being forced to pay for our own national destruction?


20 posted on 07/26/2014 6:49:43 AM PDT by abclily (every)
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