Leninist Scotland Can Go Its Own way

Enza Ferreri Blog ^ | 11 July 2014 | Enza Ferreri

[Enza Ferreri]

Watching last night's Question Time, which was in Scotland and devoted half of its time to the question of Scottish independence - it was also the last QT before the September referendum -, confirmed and strengthened my opinion that England would be far better off without Scotland.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

They will probably be forced to. The UK is a trusted partner with US Defence firms, and are trusted with a lot of secret US tech that the US Government doesn’t want just any old country to be privy to. This special arrangement would not necessarily be inherited by an independent Scotland (especially a stridently, anti-nuclear, leftist one) and in order to maintain these arrangements with US defence contractors, BAe Systems et all will have to relocate their facilities down south or across the sea into the rUK. Would be good news for England’s defence industry, especially in Portsmouth, thats for sure.

[GeronL]

and England cannot just hand over missiles, aircraft and ships to Scotland. There are many foreign parts on them and they need to be licensed from the home country for that.

[Tau Food]

Leninist Scotland?

Crazy talk.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Whenever anyone shows the industriousness to become a real leader, he was always undermined and betrayed, and frequently murdered, by some ambitious and incompetent underling.

The Tale of Humanity in a nutshell. The United States was once one of the rare exceptions to this brutal reality - in this Age of EBT Cards and Circuses it has returned, perhaps forever.

[353FMG]

Oh man, I feel better already.

I only imbibe in Islay single-malt scotch whisky.

[driftless2]

I'm sure a lot of the drive for complete Scottish independence is driven emotionally. I like to play Scottish folk songs on my guitar, and not a few of them are emotional appeals to the past.... William Wallace, Bonny Prince Charlie, and independence from England.

I think most Scots are smart enough to realize going down the socialist road is the road to ruin. They'll find out soon enough. It's not like the great majority of Scots are leaping wholeheartedly into independence judging by the failure to get a majority to vote for it in the polls.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Independence for England! We Anglo-Saxons need an ancestral motherland too!

PS: De-annexing Wales was a mistake.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Scotland is going to be a dead broke communist EU country with a 3rd world population due to immigration and politics.

So much for the country that so many "palaeos" look on as a mystical "home."

[GeronL]

It’s all in the past, like the America we grew up loving

[Zionist Conspirator]

I'm sure a lot of the drive for complete Scottish independence is driven emotionally. I like to play Scottish folk songs on my guitar, and not a few of them are emotional appeals to the past.... William Wallace, Bonny Prince Charlie, and independence from England.

"Bonnie Prince Charlie" never fought for an independent Scotland. As a Stewart he wanted on the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and most Highland Scots supported him. Lowland Scots were more hostile to him than the English were.

[driftless2]

That’s correct. He was the last hope of the Stuart’s to claim the throne. Some years ago I visited the Culloden Moor battlefield where his dreams were dashed.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

Technically, he wanted (or at least agreed to) restore legislative independence to Scotland by overturning the 1707 Act of Union and restoring the Scottish Parliament, going back to the personal union of 1603. Many of the Scottish Jacobites fought under flags that said ‘No Union’. Presumably, the English Jacobites who fought for him as part of the ‘Manchester Regiment’ didn’t really care either way.

Might have been a moot point however, as a Stewart who believed in the ‘divine right of Kings’ he, would have turned the clock back on Constitutional Monarchy and ruled more like a continental absolutist monarch.

[Vanders9]

Actually we couldn't. What authority do we have to hold a referendum? Who would hold such a referendum and who could vote in it? There is - legally - no country called England. It exists as a concept, as a past reality, as an emotional concept for a group of people, but it has no legal standing. There is no English parliament, and therefore no authority which exists that we could appeal to in order to exit the United Kingdom.

Its a bit of trivia quiz question, but in fact Scotland is the only country in the United Kingdom. Wales is a principality, Northern Ireland is a province, and England does not exist.

[Vanders9]

But why end it there? Places like the Orkneys and the Faroe Islands are already considering asking for independence from and independent Scotland. If Scotland gets its independence, how could they possibly refuse it to someone else? And if the orkneys and the faroes go independent, or become part of denmark or norway, bang goes half the north sea oil the SNP is banking on to keep their socialist utopia afloat.

I'm not so keen on calling their bluff. I live on the borders in northern England and I dont want to see hordes of Scottish economic migrants flooding over the border when the grand socialist experiment collapses (as it inevitably will)

[Vanders9]

At the start of the campaign the answer would have been a resounding no, but the last I heard (which was a few weeks ago) the independence movement had closed the gap to seven points, which is attainable.

[Vanders9]

There have also been allegations of intimidation being used. Pro-Union businesses have been threatened with “retribution” if they dont support the “right” side.

[mac_truck]

Independence will have the dual effect of making the rest of Great Britain more conservative, while forcing Scotland to pay for all its socialist malarkey.

Its a win-win situation.

[2001convSVT]

Thank you for the update.

[MadMitch]

The Faroe Islands are not part of the United Kingdom.

[Vanders9]

It would cause a political upheaval of epic proportions. Yes, it would affect the socialists heavily - they get 60+ seats from Scotland - labour might not be able to win the next general election without its Scottish constituency. OTOH, being the one on watch and allowing the Union to dissolve would finish PM Cameron’s political career and disrupt the Conservatives, so they would struggle at the next eletions too. The Liberal Democrats are already a spent force. Into the vacumn could come UKIP. It might be that they would be the main beneficiary politically if Scotland opts out, which is kind of ironic as UKIP (by definition) is very much a pro-Union party.