[maine-iac7]

you say: “Land? Yeh farmland where you can grow something.”

the MOST essential. And you DO NOT need acres and acres - BUT - you DO need y our own well water and wood stove - and, ideally, a wood lot nearby, if not on house property.

Independence is spelled: Shelter/water/heat/garden - that is not dependent on off site entity.

Here’s what one guy does on 1/5th !! of an acre. (He makes a big mistake in being city water/sewer/heat. but this is incredible)

So if you have a lawn - you can do this - NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IbODJiEM5A

[Georgia Girl 2]

You definitely need an offsite retreat. You can do a lot on 1 acre if its all flat.

[MaxMax]

I like edible family pets. Chickens are entertaining too. I would not want
to be near that house if the SHTF and people are starving. A Hippie without a gun
in LA is a dead hippie, you cannot kill them all either.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

BUMP for later. Thanks!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

They are an interesting lot. The wife bugged out years ago (maybe she was made into compost? LOL!) yet his ADULT children continue to live with him and have no desire to move on to families of their own. The ‘kids’ have always seemed a tad ‘off’ to me.

They do accomplish a LOT, and I have read their blogs and integrated some of their ideas into my little farm, through the years.